This Coronavirus Problem

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Thomas Stearn, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. Craig Wilson

    Craig Wilson Veteran Member
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    In addition to that. Have many world governments been lax in not identifying unknown cases and their cause. That is community to community infections with no apparent connection to a known infected source. In my country while the known cases are dropping the unknown ones are rising.. only steadily.. but still rising. So did we issue our social distancing regulation a touch late. What is America's number of "unknown cases"?
     
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    Boris is now out of ICU.
     
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  3. Nancy Hart

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    Do you mean the cases of unknown exposure? Not sure I understand the footnotes. As of today ...

    Cases of COVID-19 Reported in the US, by Source of Exposure
    Travel-related 1,930
    Close contact 9,763
    Under investigation 415,767
    Total 427,460

    Footnotes
    * Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.

    † CDC is no longer reporting the number of persons under investigation (PUIs) that have been tested, as well as PUIs that have tested negative. Now that states are testing and reporting their own results, CDC’s numbers are not representative of all testing being done nationwide.
     
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  4. Lois Winters

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    I just found out that the assisted living facility I live in has 4 residents and 5 team members testing positive for the virus. Of course no one has bothered to test me even though I am sick.
     
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  5. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Louis, did you ask or insist on being tested? Just asking.
     
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  6. Thomas Stearn

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    Lois, I'd hoped you'd be feeling better. :( Do you know why the other residents have been tested?
     
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  7. Cody Fousnaugh

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    It now has been stated, and proven, that African-Americans are getting the virus at alarming rates. AA politicians want something done about this. There just happens to be different races that live in poor-to-very poor health conditions and don't have the money to improve them (in their own homes).

    As for my thinking, I seriously doubt anything can be done, due to the way some of them live as well as some other races, including whites, live.
     
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  8. Martin Alonzo

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    What do they think the Government should do change their race for them. White people get sunburn easier [divide and concur]
     
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  9. Cody Fousnaugh

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    When CNN was talking with the Lt. Governor of Michigan, agreeing with him about the virus vs. the AA community and wanting more things done about the poor health/living conditions/standards of AA communities, I thought "how?". There are poor communities in every race.
     
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  10. Martin Alonzo

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    Cody it is all about making race the problem and not about living condition because they want to divide the country into race or sex or all these other things like I put it divide and concur. The environment that you live in has more to do with your health than your race. I wounder if this is the same in other countries I live in a country that is majority black
     
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    Finally, a politician with some sense.
    I was listening to a live interview on the radio this morning with Congressman Mo Brooks.
    He said that with the figures as they are in Alabama, people should be allowed to use their own sense of reason concerning whether or not they wish to open their businesses or frequent whatever businesses.
    If a restaurant wants to risk opening the doors and the patrons wish to risk going to that restaurant, it is what it is.

    The same with voting. We already have absentee ballots if we wish to use them instead of going to the polls so what is this “mail in” thing Nancy P is talking about? If the polls are open, people like myself and others will show up to vote. If not, they can opt for a vetted absentee ballot.

    One thing Mr. Brooks did say that I sort of question is that he said that the Federal Government has only affected those people who are either working for the government or have contracts with the government. Many portions of the government have laid off employees whilst others either work from home or are part time.
    What I question is how much control over the states has the Fed opted to have. He said that the Fed has no control over what each state mandates for its citizens regarding the virus and each state has to determine for itself when and how the state would open up.
    Now, everyone knows that the Fed does have some influence in the form of federal tax dollars that go to each state for whatever initiatives so I’m thinking that it might be a sort of Sword of Damocles situation. If not, then this almost historic near martial law stuff that the states are administering to it’s citizens and blaming it on the Federal Government is a total lack of the ability to take responsibility.
    Like the New Orleans mayor my wife was telling me about who blames D. Trump for not telling her not to have Marci Gras. I’m sure the CDC had already contacted her and instead of heeding the warning she didn’t want to refuse the billion or so dollars that comes with Madrid Gras, then so be it.
     
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  12. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Interesting, yes, interesting.
     
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  13. Ken Anderson

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    Have they refused to test you or have they just not done so? I pray you'll be better soon.
     
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  14. Craig Wilson

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    Lois this is not meant to alarm you and others in assisted care homes. Nothing confirmed but I am hearing there may be as many as 2000 unreported deaths from Covid 19 in American elderly homes. If correct this is a disgrace. Why have these fatalities not been reported. Dont the elderly count?
     
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    I have not read anything even close to what you are reporting, @Craig Swanson . We are mostly reading that the deaths anywhere are being counted as a COVID death, regardless of any other health issues that a person might have had. The first deaths that we heard about here were from a nursing home in Washington State.
    Most of the people in nursing homes are elderly and in poor health, so it would make sense that they would be the least likely to survive any kind of a viral infection.
    How can they even SAY that there were about 2,000 deaths , if the deaths are not reported ?
    Can you please share the report URL where you saw that information , so we can see why a news report could say that, instead of what the other reports are saying ?
     
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