This Coronavirus Problem

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Thomas Stearn, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. Nancy Hart

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    Our tiny county now has only 102 reported cases of virus, but 12 deaths. That is the highest percentage of all 159 counties in Georgia. I just followed up on it and 10 deaths were residents of Grandview, a short-term rehabilitation center and nursing home here. It has had a bad reputation for several years.
     
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    Nancy do you live in the country Georgia or the state of Georgia sorry for the ignorance
     
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    State
     
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    Time to reopen the USA?
     
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    Sunlight Destroys Virus Quickly. Good News?
     
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    Maybe we all need to go out and get some sunlight.
     
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    I don't see how that could hurt. I wouldn't think that you would need a mask either.
     
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    It you go into the sun you get vitamin D free
     
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    New Data Suggest the Coronavirus Isn’t as Deadly as We Thought -- Wall Street Journal

    More accurately, I think, they should say that some are conceding that it is not as deadly as they pretended it was going to be.
     
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    Somethings make you go WHAT The police collected up some foreigners off the beach for not using proper distancing and put them in the back of a pickup truck to take them to jail. They probably done damage to their tourist trade but they are not known for intelligence.
     
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    Can you put your finger on why this nursing home has the most deaths @Nancy Hart. At least half the deaths in Sydney have been attributed to aged care homes. A majority of those in just two homes.
     
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    I am not surprised that some of the worst cases have been in nursing homes. For one thing, that's where they keep the people who are the most likely to get sick from the virus. Most importantly, my experience (in Texas and Michigan) is that nursing homes tend not to attract the top of the line when it comes to nursing staff. No, I'm not saying they're all bad but a lot of them employ the nurses who couldn't find work in a hospital or medical clinic. Transporting patients from nursing homes, I have come across horrible neglect, much of it approaching cruelty. I don't mean cruel to the extent that they enjoy inflicting pain and discomfort, but there was an indifference to it. Typically, the nurses would rarely leave the nursing station, while lesser-trained nursing assistants did all the work, and they didn't do it very well.

    Yes, I am sure there must be some fine nursing homes out there, with nurses who care and do a wonderful job. I have been in one that seemed to be that way, but all the rest of them were the pits.

    No, I don't want to take the thread off-topic onto the efficiency of nursing homes but, as it might apply to why some of the worst cases of the coronavirus have taken place in nursing homes, I think that it probably stems mostly from neglect. The homes probably have policies in place that would prevent this, if they were followed, but that would require staff who take pride in their work and who truly care about the harm they might inflict to the people in their care if they don't follow the policies.
     
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    All I know is, a few years ago, after my mother was released from the hospital we needed to find a place that offered short term rehabilitation. All the nurses said don't let her go to Grandview. It has mostly Medicaid patients. Implying to me it was for low income folks and the care there was substandard. Sad, I know. I didn't follow up on it.
     
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    I wonder how many people will be found dead in their homes when all of this is over, of causes having nothing to do with the Wuhan virus, because they have been unable to see their doctors and no one is visiting with them, or perhaps of suicide or overdoses, given that isolation often leads to drug abuse relapses and poverty doesn't help with either.

    Even in states where the family is allowed to visit relatives who are living alone, many are afraid that they will give or receive a virus, plus most states are discouraging travel. Here in Maine, a large percentage of our population is retired and many are living alone in large houses.
     
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    In Maine, way more people showed up for the protest than for the test. They were probably offering it elsewhere around the state, but they had set up a place in Bangor for people to be tested free, arranging orange cones, probably anticipating a large turnout, but almost no one came. The pictures look like an empty parking lot. Given all of the deception surround this virus, I don't know that I'd trust anything offered by the government. If I ever become symptomatic of something, I'll treat it like the flu, and decide whether to wait it out or see a doctor.
     
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