This Coronavirus Problem

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Thomas Stearn, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. Cody Fousnaugh

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    And that right there is exactly why a responsible leader would not "muse" about things he has no knowledge of. There are all manner of citizens that listen to this guys words and take it to the bank. Sure it said both of these,(and there are others) were mental cases. Even more reason for him to be careful of his words. There is no test fine enough to plumb the depths of the electorates lack of intelligence, and where they will get their influences.
     
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    Fact check POTUS never said to drink disinfectants but that does not stop the media using what he did not say as something to use against him. By the way vaccines have many disinfectants in them that the medical system is more than happy to jab in your arm.
     
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    Bobby, I try to imagine what it is like in all sorts of regions of the country... urban, rural, suburban, totally isolated. I think about these things a lot, and what would I do in a situation like this. How much is too much to ask of people just for the common good? How do you plan for all possible things that might happen in the future with this virus?

    I find this situation a fascinating learning experience. We've never had anything exactly like this in our lifetimes. I'm surprised how people are behaving, both good and bad. One thing I think is there needs to be a better thought out plan, and then consistent messaging.
     
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    Here's what he mused about! It does not reflect any fact saying that he had no knowledge.
    "So I asked Bill a question some of you are thinking of if you're into that world, which I find to be pretty interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting. And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful."
     
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    Though not popularly recognized as such, but when something is used to kill or relieve an area of infection, in it’s very essence it is a dis-infetant.
    Bleach and Lysol are indeed disinfectants but so is iodine and penicillin.

    Perchance to go back to 2015 when D. Trump said 2 Corinthians as opposed to 2nd Corinthians, the left hand media as well as their listeners went crazy with their authoritarian attitudes. I have said One Corinthians and Two Corinthians in front of whole congregations and no one gave it a second’s worth of thought as to where I was going in the Bible.
    Now bring us up to date, it’s exactly the same routine. Trump says disinfectant and automatically to the media he means this and he means that never once thinking about the actual term and what it means.

    It’s a given that he might have chosen better like anti-viral or anti-bacterial but if in his family they said disinfectant, then that to him is the all encompassing word for other terminology.
     
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    For him not to realize the power his words have is incomprehensible. He is the president for cripes sake. His job is to tell us truth and fact,information that we pay the medicos big bucks to know and relay to him. His job is nothing more than to take a back seat to the experts,and to be a cheerleader. I do not pay him to be a medical expert,I do not pay him for half baked opinions, I do not pay him to make irresponsible and dangerous statements.
     
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    And fortunately for you he's not doing any of the things you don't want to pay him for.
     
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    Hospitals are laying off people, some are closing, and others are on the verge of closing because no one is coming in with the other problems that would routinely keep them busy, and COVID-19 hasn't lived up to the hype.
     
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    Just an interesting observation we have never seen a well scripted epidemic as this one here some figures from 2017
    Heart disease 647,457 deaths
    Cancer 599,108 deaths
    Unintentional injuries 169,936 deaths
    Chronic lower respiratory disease 160,201 deaths
    Stroke and cerebrovascular disease 146,383 deaths
    Alzheimer’s disease 121,404 deaths
    Diabetes 83,564 deaths
    Influenza and pneumonia 55,672 deaths
    OK
    After giving you that information do we get a daily count of cancer deaths Alzheimer’s deaths how come they kill more people than this virus will?
    I put in the search engine covid 19 deaths April 28 2020 and got a figure of 55,000 to 58,000 this is a little worse than the flu in 2017.
    The daily news media pushing this in your face and changing your life. There must be some other reason and not just this virus. The government have declared war on heart disease and cancer and we did not go through anything like this. The so called medical science don’t want to hear of an old drug that works or any none drug treatment. Even the social media will ban you if you do not follow the WHO doctrine. When the truth comes out which it will that Dr. Fauci gave millions to the lab in China that made it and he will get millions when the vaccine comes out if it does. If they pull the vaccine protection act away maybe no one will make vaccines because they know they will be sued out of existence.
    We were warned this would happen by the forefather Benjamin Rush, one of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, warned in 1787 that medical freedom needed to be included in the American Constitution.
    Without this protection, Rush warned that the medical establishment would naturally progress – as many of mankind’s institutions do – into an oppressive dictatorship. His words, echoing from over 200 years ago, ring strikingly true today:
     
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    Dunno why you’re so worried Pete. Hillary is endorsing Biden so you KNOW that things will be just peachy soon.

    Sincerely though, when the President made his (media skewed) comment, did you hear any of the big buck medical guys try to clear things up when it was their turn to speak? Did one of them say anything other than we have to stay locked down for a while longer and they were trying to come up with a vaccine? Did one of them say, pardon me but UV is not a disinfectant?
    Did not Trump say that he wasn’t a doctor but did introduce one to answer the questions he asked?

    To me, D. Trump is asking the same questions that some Americans are / were asking and to me also, that sounds like someone representing the people and isn’t worried about the idiot media nor those who want so badly to believe what the media has to opine.

    Sadly though, you’re now getting what the left really wants. Trump got tired of being asked loaded and stupid questions from the left wing media and has suspended his daily briefings with we, the people who really wish to hear what he has to say.
     
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    UV does act as a disinfectant for airborne viruses so it seems reasonable to inquire whether it could be used on viruses that are within the system, as well.
     
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    And, what about the lady that left her quarantine and went to a Kroger grocery store. Her mom called law enforcement on her and they met her as she left the store. Apparently she got a little rowdy with them...…..kicked out a tail light and broke the door handle of a patrol car.
     
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    On our side of the city we live in, that’s called parking lot sports. Some of the better ones even get scored and maybe televised if they’re really good.
     
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