This Coronavirus Problem

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Thomas Stearn, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. Hedi Mitchell

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    I saw on news this morning that your town has new virus cases because of a wedding in your town...Any truth to that , you know of ?
     
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    The wedding was in East Millinocket, fourteen miles from here, and the reception was about the same distance north of us, and none of the people were from here, other than the employees of the place where they held the reception. They scheduled their wedding and reception in this area because we didn't have the same restrictions they had further south. So basically, someone in the wedding party brought the virus here, and only the local news got it right, that it wasn't in Millinocket. It did scare some people here though, so I'm seeing more masks.
     
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  3. Al Amoling

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    Apparently the wedding was officiated by a pastor fro Sanford and there's a bunch of new cases in York county and at the county jail(inmates & staff)
     
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  4. Martin Alonzo

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    Laugh the vaccine pushers are now anti vaccine people because Trump said there might be a vaccine ready soon.
    They were banning all people on most internet web sites who were anti vaccine [Google] and others. Now that the left is anti vaccine what are they going to do. Catch 22
     
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  5. Ken Anderson

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    Frankly, I suspect that even their tracking is political. You might notice that cases of the virus are rarely attributed to protests or liberal events, and some jurisdictions (New York, I think) even instructed their trackers not to look into these events.
     
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    There are people in our area who have volunteered and are presently being observed after taking a proposed vaccine. Half of them have been given a placebo and the other half the actual vaccine and the guy (one of the volunteers) who comes on the talk radio here about 3 times a week to report on his progress doesn’t know which shot was given to him.
    I’m still speculating on how the scientists are going to figure out if it works unless they give everyone the virus.

    Going back to Ken and Martin’s last posts, the left definitely doesn’t want the vaccine to come out before November but the way it looks thus far, it could come out as early as next month if the trials are successful.
     
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  7. Martin Alonzo

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  8. Martin Alonzo

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    Survival rate

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  10. Martin Alonzo

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    The people who the WHO and CDC says they done everything wrong end up with less problem than the rest of the world
     
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  11. Thomas Stearn

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    A recent study by Imperial College London based on reasonably large data from 365,000 participants between June and September casts doubt as to the development of permanent immunity after a COVID 19 infection and, thus, on pursuing a herd immunity strategy, besides ethical reasons, because antibodies have waned which may have an effect on immunity against the Corona virus.
    "These data suggest the possibility of decreasing population immunity and increasing risk of reinfection as detectable antibodies decline in the population."
    They also admit that "The relevance of antibody waning for the potential for reinfection by SARS CoV-2 is currently not resolved."
    The limitations of the study are that "It included non-overlapping random samples of the population, but it is possible that people who had been exposed to the virus were less likely to take part over time, which may have contributed to apparent population antibody waning."
    https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/im...-innovation/MEDRXIV-2020-219725v1-Elliott.pdf

    We also know that immunity is not only based on antibody alone. If antibodies are not detectable, there may still be immunity. OTOH, if antibodies wane and if immunity does, too, a good vaccine is probably better than naturally acquired immunity.
     
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  12. Martin Alonzo

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    The blue line is cases
    The green line is hospitalization
    The red line is deaths
    Wake up
     
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    Sweden did do nothing for this virus except protect its elderly
    Wake up
     
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    It looks like Georgia is #1 in the nation this week in most Covid-19 deaths:. 755

    Came in #2 with most Covid-19 deaths per 100K population with 84. Only surpassed by North Dakota with 93.

    ND amazes me, because there is not much travel in and out of ND in the winter. But it is cold there. More people indoors.
     
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