Living In Assisted Living

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  1. Faye Fox

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    The former SOC, Seniors Only Club has been replaced with SOL, Seniors Outta Luck. Veteran SOC member Mr. Alonzo Tanner of OSC, Oakmont Social Club, typed what he was thinking altering the forum's fate forever. I can see where being a member of SOC and also OSC could be confusing. With one stroke of the keyboard, Mr. Tanner has cleared up any confusion. Well played Lonny!

    Although I cannot disagree or fault Mr. Tanner for the name change, I am feeling defeated this morning finding out that I am now a member of Seniors Outta Luck. Wipe that slaw-eating grin off your face @Beth Gallagher.
     
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  2. Lon Tanner

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    Now that I have had a chance to have two Reiki Massages I feel I can make a comparison. For me the post massage benefit of Swedish is greater. Perhaps I am just not spiritual enough for Reiki to work.
     
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  3. Lon Tanner

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    She is a recently widowed 77 year old woman and a good neighbor that I enjoy having an occasional meal with in the dining room. She is pretty independent and gets around pretty well with her walker, like me. My Concern? She eats huge amounts of food. I guess her weight to be something over 200 lbs. I am 6 4 and exactly 200 lbs but eat a fraction of what she does. Right now her only medical complaint is a rotator cup problem, but I envision a potential diabetes problem for her and a loss of independence requiring more care. It's not my place to discuss this with her, she has a daughter and a personal doctor. She still has a home and drives a car. She will drive home several times a week to see her two dogs.
     
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    In my book, if I am really concerned about someone and their habits, I normally ask them about it.

    Of course, one must make sure that there are no heavy objects sitting near said person but just the same, ya gotta die from something so it might as well be death by a hula lamp with a clock in the middle of her stomach.
     
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    Sigh.. let her alone Lon, trust me nothing you could say will change her. If that were possible my hubby would listen to me versus ignoring my concerns for him. And men wonder why women nag,nag nag ;)
     
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    Are you ignoring that I said I will mind my own business? Pay attention.
     
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    Not saying you aren't going to observe good boundaries, Lon, just adding another point. Food is a highly emotional issue for some people, and a strong coping mechanism. Most who are overweight by the time we are elderly have emotional needs that food satisfies in ways that nothing else will. Sometimes the choice to die from an overload of pizza and cheesecake seems preferable when loneliness, grief, regrets or depression, are unbearable.
     
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    This is SO totally true, and it is just what I have been reading about in the book by Douglas Lisle, called “The Pleasure Trap”. He explains how humans (and all animals) are programmed to seek pleasure, avoid pain, and save energy.
    When we all ate natural foods, we felt full when we had eaten enough, but now a bowl of ice cream is the same as eating 10 apples. No one would likely sit there and eat the 10 apples, but the ice cream does not satisfy us, or fill our stomach.
    What it does do, is trigger dopamine, which is the exact same thing as happens with drug addicts when they take drugs. So, it gives us a (very temporary) feeling of happiness, which is what it was designed by God/nature to do; except when it was designed to work that way, we were eating apples and not ice cream.

    Since the neighbor lady just lost her husband, she is probably grieving, and the best way that anyone can help her is to just be a good friend to her. The overeating, and poor foods stimulate the dopamine, and help her to feel better, and maybe she just needs that right now, and can deal with the weight issue when she is not so sad from the loss of her husband.

     
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    If I live to push 80 years of age, I sure hope I can still do stuff that might impact my future health.
    I would think that her health care provider is already telling her everything she needs to hear on the subject.

    As an aside...I've had hefty friends and all of their measurements have been fine. On the other hand, I've always been a skinny guy who could eat whatever he wanted and fretted over not being able to gain weight, and my cholesterol has been through the roof. So I don't give grief to folks whose externalities might invite intrusion, because the next heart attack just might be from the scarecrow sitting right next to them.
     
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    You do realize that the numbers are caused by your diet mostly, right ?

    For instance, has no one told you yet about garlic and niacin ? This can easily be verified by testing every week, or every two months, as desired, or less frequently, after your numbers are better (healthier range).
     
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    Yup.

    I went meatless for 6 months when I was first diagnosed, and pounded those numbers right down. I just could not permanently maintain that way of eating...I will readily admit that I felt deprived, and could not forever deny myself the foods I wanted to eat.

    I also use to take B-3 for it. The flush was painful. It was quite the experience.
     
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    The flush might be painful, shrugs , it just invigorates me.

    Garlic might help even more - it often does and is very very worth it (be sure NOT to get odor free - that's been de-activated usually). I got some capsules that have just garlic in them, nice and strong, and WOW, it helps better than any toxin.
    Still, it helps to be tested (not by ama) to know for sure if something unknown is amiss. (or a mister). :)

    The enzymes the body itself makes in the liver might help the most. The job of the enzymes the liver makes is to keep the blood vessels from hardening, and free of stuff building up.

    Any experienced tester, outside the ama of course, can let you know specifically ,
    if you find one.
     
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    Well, those are not always the cause, no matter what you were told, btw.

    The worst foods developed between wwI and wwII to make people sick, and this was published around 1947-1948,

    instead of becoming less in the american diet, got greatly increased advertising (the first tv blitz commercials),
    and are still being given to babies, little children, toddlers, teens, youngsters, adolescents, young adults, adults,
    and geriatric aged adults. i.e. everyone is still frequently told to take what harms them and has harmed many since between wwI and wwII.

    It is possible, of course, that some of the foods you want to eat are unhealthy. This is routine in the USA.
    It is possible also, that by a few changes, you can eat without eliminating them , just enjoy them, if they are not too harmful.
     
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