Race, Ethnicity, And Nationality; Is There A Difference?

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  1. Silvia Benoit

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    I read a lot about both; they refer to national / common traditions. Is part of my profession.
    IMHO to describe as Hispanics to all who have Spanish as the main language is wrong since the traditions vary from country to country and even from region to region.
    Hispanic derives from Hispania -original name of Spain (Roman Empire) and applies to people born in said country. If you address a person from Nicaragua, Uruguay, Ecuador, Chile....as Hispanic (as is done in USA) you could be offending him / her.
    See, I speak Spanish as does my friend Carlos O'Farrell; we were born in Argentina but I am 100% French origin and Carlos is 100% Irish. I follow the French traditions and he does the Irish ones. Please, don't call us Hispanic.
     
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  2. Hal Pollner

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    I find that the greatest differences between Race, Ethnicity, and Nationality are in the Spelling.

    Harry
     
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    Allow me to disagree. My siblings were born in France so their nationality is French. I was born in Argentina so my nationality is not French but Argentinian. Guess what? The three of us...sister, brother and myself...we "came out" from the same parents = same race.

    Another example: A friend of the family was born in Brazil, his older brother in Germany and the youngest in USA...the three of them have the same Slavic noses and square faces of their parents who were born in Ukraine.
    People have the tendency to make synonyms out of these words...they aren't
     
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  4. Hal Pollner

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    That one went over your head, Sylvia!:D

    I meant the difference in spelling the WORDS Race, Ethnicity, and Nationality!

    Hal;)
     
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    No, it didn't go over my head. I, simply, am a little too tired of people grouping up human beings "because they speak the same language." No, dear, I only took advantage of your post to reaffirm -one more time- the difference between these three words.

    BTW...my name is Silvia...with an "I"...I hope this detail doesn't go over your head. :)
     
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  6. Hal Pollner

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    Dear Silvia...
    I don't know Y I used the letter "Y" in sabotaging your Name.
    Lo siento mucho...

    Haroldo
     
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    HaroldO LOL....Everybody, even the DMV, messes up my name.......and my maiden last-name.
     
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    Harry! I think that is a great answer!
    I was thinking about race the other day. I was an anthro/psych major in college long ago. I did a paper on the slave trade, back then, and in my research found that wars were being fought between 'black' tribes on the African continent and the live captives were often brought to the coast to sell to the 'white' slave traders. ( Lots of reparations should not be paid by the white race?)
    More recently I as taking a long bow archery course and eaves dropped on a conversation. A woman asked what nation another archer came from. The respondent then asked what nation she had come from. American Indians don't refer to themselves as from tribes but Nations. There were millions of indigenous peoples here before the Europeans. Horrible genocide was inflicted on them by (?)
    Maybe Japan and China preferred separatism the longest
    I enjoy the knowledge of my historical background; mostly Irish and German. But I don't display 'North American tradition' much. I just live as I do.
    But, I fear what was done to the Indians will be done, by the powers that be, to us
     
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    I recall this topic on a different forum years ago, and most of the people who posted about it couldn't agree on what those words meant!! So all I can give is my take on the subject:

    Nationality = birthplace and/or citizenship. Like you, I'm 100% American!!! :)

    Race = I agree with the approach that 'races' began when individuals spread out around the globe and took on physical characteristics compatible with the environments. Personally, I describe myself as multiracial.

    Ethnicity = I believe this means the country/countries a person's ancestors came from. However, when it comes to 'ethnic groups,' referring to as I've read attitudes, beliefs, behaviors, practices, etc., there's no doubt that I'm Dutch (that's Netherlands Dutch, not to be mistaken with Pennsylvania Deutch, which has been a misspelling/misunderstanding for a long time). However, even with significant Dutch history from two of my grandparents, I mostly attribute it to my early childhood environment.
     
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    I always preferred the recurve bow...it provides more power in a more compact package.

    Archbishop Hal
     
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    Hey...look at that Faye Fox!

    She's still in there sluggin'!;)

    Harold
     
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    Or, as an over-the-hill Val might say:
    First Fay went, and then Hal goes...
    :p
     
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    ?Quien es Val?

    Su amigo, Haroldo
     
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    Don't you live in California? You might remember the "Valley Girls" that were commonplace in some areas in the 1980s.
     
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