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  1. Beth Gallagher

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    I'm not sure that "mobilization" is working so well. From Time...

    "At least 260,000 military-aged males have fled Russia since the draft announcement, according to independent Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta and some Western officials, spurred by reports from exiled Russian news sites that Putin could announce a border closure at any moment."
     
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  2. Don Alaska

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    Maybe, but we had at least that many flee to Canada during Vietnam, and should the draft be reinstated her we may see that again. I have seen several articles on it, and while some support the Western view that Putin is losing popularity, I have seen some that talk about how the refugees are being treated in the countries they flee to, and how shocked they are at how expensive everything is in the West. Some have even said that Putin is driving the dissidents from his borders so he won't have protests and people stirring up trouble. I don't know the truth. It is probably in there somewhere.
     
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    Although the West wants to keep the focus on Putin as the archenemy of the free world, my biggest fear is of a shift in thinking as to who the good guys are versus the bad guys, as it pertains to nations rather than people.
     
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  4. Thomas Stillhere

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    Russians do have the nerve when it comes to over throwing the government. It was done once in our life time with the total collapse of the KGB and the puppets. They fired on their own government house and all the bad guys were booted. The one mistake was allowing this little midget survive, it was the people who started the purge using force and never underestimate what they might do. They know better than any of us what the leaders they have today are capable of doing to their own people. They could take the midget out at any time and the world would be a better place. It was pure war crimes to attack Ukraine no matter whether we like them or not. People are confused about the power structure in Ukraine. The past thievery that was committed like the paying millions to the crack head son of Biden was done by Russian puppets who have all been tossed out since that time. Today's leaders in Ukraine are no worse than our own bunch of thieves we call our congress and senate. Probably much better than what we have, they have no trouble fielding an army under the most difficult of times, we have no youth in America to match their patriotism. It is do or die for them and only a heart beat away for our own existence.
     
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  5. Don Alaska

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    I just watched a LONG interview with a so-called expert on foreign affairs and military strategy who has testified before Congress several times. He paints a bleak picture for the world this winter. According to him, China is pressuring Russia to finish the war in Ukraine this winter, preferably prior to the first of the year but certainly before the spring thaw. China (according to him) will institute a blockade of Taiwan sometime after the end of the CCP Congress in late October, but they want Russia to be free to aid them against Japan should the Japanese take local action in response to Chinese action. If needed, North Korea will begin a conflict with South Korea and Iran will move into southern Iraq. The U.S. cannot respond on so many fronts, but if they try, the Russians and Chinese will simply
    EMP our technology base into oblivion. He admitted that the U.S. had a classified space-based weapons system, but that it probably was not enough to confront all these threats at one time.

    He recommended the Biden Administration defuse the situation by giving Putin a face-saving way out. He said that was what Turkey had negotiated before Boris Johnson torpedoed the deal prior to leaving office. (I know absolutely nothing about that). We'll see what winter brings....
     
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  6. Thomas Stillhere

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    We'll know more after November, at least see if we dump some of the garbage that has been cast onto us by this lot of tyrants who like to target their political enemies. George Soro s can take the honors after financing all of these communist characters holding law degrees and offices for his game of nation destruction. If ever anything goes down he should be the first one shot by firing squad. We have complete idiots in DC and they are the most dangerous part of this scenario, they are all unfit to hold office of any kind. One thing about a full blown war, it don't take long for the bad apples to be weeded out. I know one thing, once it starts it will be the most devastating event in world history. Someone would survive but the question is what language does he speak.
     
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  7. Martin Alonzo

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    Russia moved in to Ukraine with a 3 to 1 disadvantage and took about 1/3 of the country with most of the world sending in military help to Ukraine . China sending in help for Russia North Korea offering 100,000 troops. And people still trying to figure the out come. Enjoy the show
     
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    Yes with slo joe napping in the oval office they all feel emboldened. I think the world will look very unkindly to any other nation that interferes with the Ukrainian Russia war, for starters knock out that 100,000 NK just for kicks then turn the attention to real important players. I think it speaks for itself to ask for foreign help to fight a war of genocide which is what russia is doing. Only a matter of time and we will all wake up to a crowd surrounding the hanging body of putin. These people like him and china's leaders are exactly the same as those animals who started WW II . You don't appease animals like those and meet force with more force no matter what the outcome. I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands living in America that would stand idly by and allow the enemy to completely destroy us. We have common criminals in our government so don't expect any leadership in an armed conflict.
     
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    Rock legend says he’s on Ukrainian ‘kill list’
    Pink Floyd co-founder Roger Waters claims he’s been targeted for “liquidation” after urging Kiev to make peace with Russia
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    Roger Waters is shown performing at New York's Madison Square Garden on August 30. © Getty Images / Theo Wargo
    British rock star Roger Waters, a co-founder of Pink Floyd, has allegedly been placed on a Ukrainian “kill list” after speaking out against Western military meddling and calling on Kiev to make peace with Russia.

    In an interview with Rolling Stone published on Tuesday, the 79-year-old pushed back against accusations that he’s been repeating Russian talking points about the conflict in Ukraine. “Don’t forget, I’m on a kill list that is supported by the Ukrainian government. I’m on the fu**ing list, and they’ve killed people recently… When they kill you, they write ‘liquidated’ across your picture. Well, I’m one of those fu**ing pictures.”

    Waters gave the example of Darya Dugina, the Russian journalist murdered in August after appearing on the Ukrainian Mirotvorets list. As the musician noted, her entry on the list was marked “liquidated” after she was killed in a car-bombing. Others who have questioned or criticized the Kiev regime, such as photojournalists Andrea Rocchelli of Italy and Andrei Stenin of Russia, have also been killed after appearing on the Mirotvorets list. The site lists personal information on its blacklist targets, which also include politicians and NGO activists.
     
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    Yep, Zelenskyy is as bad or worse than Putin. Part of the reason Putin has not done worse things in Ukraine is that Russian law prevents that, and he is following Russian law. Unfortunately, Zelenskyy pays little attention to Ukrainian or international law. Our media keeps referring to the "Ukrainian democracy" proving how little they know about things there. Of course, they refer to the U.S. as a democracy as well, also proving they don't understand how the U.S. is supposed to operate either.

    Oh yeah, Wates refers to Biden as a War Criminal....
     
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  13. Martin Alonzo

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    A great portion of the World is made up of people who cut off heads and hands and genitals and even burn another human alive. Frankly I don't care if they hate us or not, I'll take my chances here in the good old USA, where you can get a fair trial as long as it is a conservative jury and judge if you happen to be a conservative or independent, if not good luck in today's USA. We have a split justice system thanks to these tyrants of the past 50 years hijacking our system and making two set of laws. I hope I live to be a hundred so I can witness those people all suck real hard and long for that last gasp of air. I definitely do hate tyrants and make no excuses.
     
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    A great portion of the World is made up of people who cut off heads and hands and genitals and even burn another human alive. Frankly I don't care if they hate us or not,

    The word xenophobic comes to mind here - also the word stupid.
     
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