Choice Of Mates

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  1. Richard Whiting

    Richard Whiting Very Well-Known Member
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    That MAY be part of it, but compared to all other races, Asian women are the ultimate in femininity.
     
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    There are some American feminine women left just maybe harder to find.
    Did you see the Asian woman singing " I Enjoy Being A Girl"? I bet you love that song,I know I always liked it.
     
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    Plenty of American women are feminine. We just aren't subservient anymore.
     
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    I experienced both my ideal type and the instant connection at the same time. However I do know a woman can develop a long term connection over time with a man without him being the perfect physical specimen she once held as ideal, if he has other characteristics like integrity, intelligence, honesty, morals and manners, etc. The problem is, most unattractive men want an immediate physical connection with a woman without demonstrating the positive characteristics that would make him more attractive over time.
     
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    I'm not so sure about U.S. women being feminine. Have you ever noticed that so very many movies these days have the heroine being rougher/tougher than the men ? Or, at minimum , just as tough.

    Years ago I had the TV on while reading the newspaper. I looked up just in time to see Drew Barrymore, (one of the Charlie's Angels movies) who was tied to a chair and being guarded by 3 bad guys. She not only escaped from the chair, she beat heck out of all 3 bad guys. Surely, Hollywood produces films like that to pander to American women. Women who enjoy that, are not my idea of feminine.
     
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    It's 3:28 AM...

    There's a loud, strange noise downstairs--you are both instantly awake.

    Who goes downstairs?
     
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    News Flash: Those are movies.
     
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    True, but those films are produced to appeal to women. That says a lot about U.S. women.
    That is just like films where the hero is a rough and tough guy. Why ? Because it appeals to men.
     
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    Yes, of course. It is always the man. It's part of our job. Just like it is always his PRIMARY job to support wife and children. In doing so, he often drives himself into an early grave.

    Now that women are demanding to stop being the primary home maker, maybe men should stop being the primary breadwinner ?
     
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    Men who prefer Asian women may not appear very masculine to other women, so those men would do well to seek Asian women. My experience has been that most men seek to be intimate with any women of any nationality who gives them any attention. I'm not acquainted with any men who are married to Asian women so I can't evaluate their masculinity.
     
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    Well, my wife is Asian.

    I'm 6'3" 235lb.

    I would post some of my early work in porn films, from the 70s, ("Here Cums Johnny Wadd!" "Mad MaXXX") but the moderators told me not to.

    So there...
     
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    There are many male roles which determine masculinity. Some may look at it as muscled, and/or social habits, and/or financially driven, etc, etc.

    When I lived in Asia, there were tons of retired men from other countries: (mostly from) Great Britain, Canada, Korea, Australia, and the U.S. After an initial period of dating dozens of Asian women, most settled down with one. These men paid all the bills and gave the women whatever she needed/wanted. The girl ended up living far, far better than she could have otherwise.

    A small percentage of those men started another family. He, generally speaking, paid to send his children to private schools and thus the kids had a decent chance to have a good career.
     
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    I don't think early work in porn films proves any sort of masculinity. But masculinity like femininity is subjective and up to the individual but most women look for strength of character in addition to whatever physical characteristics they like.
     
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    Let's see...

    To make it clear, I *do* know something about the topic, and it's also true that, like birds of a feather who flock together, many such bi-racial couples associate with each other simply over shared experiences. Here's what I see, FWIW...

    Sometime during 90s I was made aware that my base culture, SE European (2nd gen) was what is now labeled as "paternalistic". This is a loaded term, but let's accept at face value that I grew up in a culture that was strongly role based, as determined by gender. Both genders had traditionally determined roles and this was accepted, and from what I can tell, almost everyone was content with this. It feels natural to me, deeply.

    My first wife was not from a similar background. We had constant fights over what it now turns out were differences in cultural expectancies over domestic roles.

    My current wife, of Japanese descent by way of Hawaii, is by tradition comfortable with a role-based domestic model--it was what she, too, grew up with. And it works well for us on a practical level because there is a kind of role specialization. This does not imply that she could not do tasks, solve problems that are usually in my domain, but I do these all the time, have done them many times, and I'm good at these tasks. Vice-versa is also true.

    She is very pretty, to my eye, but I find very pretty women of all races, so it wasn't that; it was mutual comfort in learned domestic roles. I think that if it's not exactly as I've described for the other bi-racial couples I've described, it's pretty close.

    So those are my data points.
     
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    I disagree and don't care for that type of movie at all. I believe the "woman as a superhero" movies are also made for men. Why else would Wonder Woman wear leotards and a push-up bra.
     
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