June Is Pride Month?

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  1. John Brunner

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    Never gonna happen with this teacher. He/she is at home right now.
     
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    Christian American Arrested For Reading Bible At Pennsylvania ‘Pride’ Event

    This happened in Reading. The man (Damon Atkins) was on the fringe of the crowd reading out loud from the Bible. Less than one minute after he started, he was arrested for “Disorderly Conduct Engage in Fighting,” which "involves intentionally causing significant public inconvenience, annoyance, or alarm, or recklessly creating a risk thereof."

    The police claim that Atkins had earlier shouted derogatory remarks at an organization holding a permitted event, exhibiting behavior that was threatening, violent, and tumultuous. Those derogatory remarks were his reading from the Bible.

    The story claims that earlier in the week, he had attended another pride event, where a man approached him and menacingly remarked, “If I had a gun, I would shoot you in the head.”
     
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    Well, there certainly are a lot of folk who disagree with a wide variety of organisations and who would like to shut them down. BUT, if said organisation has an event permit, then it is provocative to try to annoy that organisation. Emotions run high at such events. I don't blame the man for trying to use his rights of free speech, but it's likely all the police were trying to do is keep people from being hurt.
     
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    The permit was for the parade. You don't need a permit to have and express an opinion.
     
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    Yes, that is correct. BUT, if what you are saying is dangerous, either to yourself or others, the police have an obligation to intervene.

    Example: I don't like or approve of neo-nazis. If they had permit for a parade, anyone who tries to disrupt that event is flirting with danger. I might like to tell them exactly what I think of them, however, if I shouted what I feel, I might start a riot. Neo-nazis are not known for their patience with outsiders.
     
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    The Supreme Court has already found that the police have no obligation to keep people safe. The duty of the police is to enforce the laws. Even if it were true that they had a requirement to keep everyone safe (which they don't), their efforts should be against those who would become violent, not against someone reading from a book they don't like. Think of it. If I threaten to kill you if you do something that you have every legal right to do, you don't lose your right to do it. The police would charge me with threatening violence against you. The permit doesn't give them the right to threaten violence against anyone doing something they don't like along the route.
     
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    Hmm. You make a good point here. :)
     
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    If the police decided to protect the nonexistent rights of violent people not to be offended rather than the rights of an individual to read the Bible, then they are wrong. I'm not surprised, but they're still wrong.
     
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    Antifa and Armenian Parents Clash at California School Board Meeting Over Required LGBTQ+ Activities

    Apparently Armenians and Hispanics do not like their children being required to attend LGBTetc etc etc activities, and voiced their displeasure at a school board meeting. The article said that the school was weaving the stuff into all courses, and one assistant principal even told staff to teach children that every person is, by default, “queer” and “socialist.” The school also lets "transgender" boys use the girls locker room.

    The protest by the parents was planned and announced in advance, so the organization ANTIFA Southern California called for activist to counter-protest the "hate groups" (meaning the parents.)

    I had wondered if immigrant communities were gonna be Ground Zero for some of this stuff. We long-term frogs have had the heat turned up slowly, but those folks have gone from room temp to boiling, and they do not like it.
     
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    My daughter just sent this to me
     

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    Even though part of June is good for us, IOW, birthday dinner for me and a few good bands playing at local country-western restaurant/nightclub for us to hear, we'll be darn glad with June is over!
     
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    Unless a person lives in an area that has a bunch of parades and such interrupting their travel and day, there’s really no need to have to focus on gay pride.
    I do not understand what there is to be so derned proud of but in truth, as long as the gay pride thing has no effect on my life, I’m not going to bother taking a bunch of time to find the logic in it.

    There are sooooo many other things including what our local, state and Federal governments do that defy logic and concrete reasoning, gay pride month doesn’t even come close to the top of the list.

    To me, it’s June….period.
    Time to plant, time to get some stuff done that I didn’t do this last winter, time to train, time to put in some real thought about the sex life of the Mexican Swamp Rat but I don’t think I can spend much time worrying about what some human does with their genitalia and why they get an entire month to admire their junk.
    After all, it only takes a second to look down and say atta boy or otherwise. It doesn’t take a month but if a group of people really want to take that long to admire what they do, so be it.

    Like the song says, “I have better things to do”.
     
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    I agree with all of the above. I would, however, add one issue that DOES bother me: the fact that many of our nations primary/secondary schools have taken over areas which are best left to the parents ie; human sexuality . It's bad enough that a 14 yr old girl can get an abortion without the parents ever being aware that she was ever pregnant, but to teach children about LGBQT is going beyond the bounds of what is right and moral.

    Suppose, just suppose, that a gay man was teaching about "gayness". Do you honestly believe he is doing so without any ulterior motives ? AND, what if that teachers motives go way beyond what the parents religious beliefs are ?
     
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    Like I've already stated, the GLBTQ community, and their supporters, push entire too hard for all of America to accept them. It simply isn't going to happen and that's being shown each June by whomever.

    I don't like having Christianity pushed down my throat, like my SIL can do. We both (wife/I) believe in God and know he helped both of us thru my medical problems. I thank him each day. I'm a Christian and have/read a Men's Devotional Bible and, on some Sunday's, will listen to a Pastor on tv that we've listened to before. But, that is it!
     
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    The attempt to normalize aberrational behavior by teaching young one’s (and others) is tantamount in that once normalized, it relieves the bad actor of any guilt attached to a sexual activity that has heretofore never been totally condoned by any civilized society.
    The way I see it, designating a month, any month as a time of revelry for one’s mental dysphoria is just another way to goad the community into a compromise between the values of the moral and immoral.
     
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