2024 United States Presidential Election

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  1. John Houlihan

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    Hi Don,

    I think you are right about Biden. He will be on the primary ballots but will probably drop out of the race around May 2024. Then I am afraid that Gavin Newsome will emerge as the democratic presidential nominee. OMG! California is a mess!

    I believe Trump will be the Republican nominee. What do you or any of our other SOC members think about that? Can Trump can beat Newsome in 2024?
     
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    No idea. Newsome or whoever gets the Dem nomination will have the media machine behind them to boost them and denigrate the Republican. There are a lot of gullible uninformed folks out there, and they are determined that we will be in a war somewhere by then, so who knows?
     
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    Good comments here.

    The Democrats and their global pardners are doing what they can to lock Trump up. If that fails I truly believe they will find a more permanent solution. They will not allow him to be elected whatever it takes to stop him. Am I the only one who thinks they are capable of that?
     
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  4. Don Alaska

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    I don' think it is just the Democrats who don't want Trump. Look at all the money being poured into DeSantis by the Republican elite. The Progressives throughout the government and political establishment are the danger. Kennedy was very much like Trump and they didn't tolerate him long.
     
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  5. Yvonne Smith

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    More and more they are saying that the only way for Trump to be stopped from getting the nomination and winning, is to kill him. Even Tucker Carlson threw that option on the table, because he said nothing else is working for them, not even trying to put Trump in prison, and he is very concerned for Trump’s safety.
    I have heard several others say that assassination is the only way that anyone else can win, from either party, and I think that this is probably being considered by Trump’s opponents.

    This is the thing that concerns me.
    If something…anything… even like a heart attack or something similar, puts Trump off the ballots with no chance of hm becoming president, what is going to happen to the huge amount of Americans (myself included) who plan on voting for Trump for president ?
    People are going to be lost and confused, especially if it happened close to the time of election.

    If the primaries are still open, I think that Ramaswamy might get a lot of the Trump voters, and I am just not sure if that is good or bad; but NONE of the other contenders besides Vivek look hopeful for me to vote for at all.
    I do not think that anyone else running under either party, really has any kind of substantial people backing them, and it is anyone’s guess who might be the candidate for either party.
    I do not think that it would be Biden under any circumstances, I think his people are done with him.

    I still would not be surprised if someone else becomes president, even if Trump is elected, so I hope he chooses a good vice-president.
     
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    There are always the rumors floating about Hillary and Michelle.

    There was little party/media Biden criticism during the past 3 years as so many are on board with the destruction. Now that they want to replace him with a brand new destroyer and the election is looming, the criticism starts--from the party and from the media.

    And I agree...Trump is the enemy of The Uniparty System.
     
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    I pretty much agree with your responses with minor differences. It's going to be an interesting and uneasy 10 months ahead.
     
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    Here is my current outlook for the 2024 presidential election.

    I assume Biden will drop out around May 2024. Gavin Newsome then will become the democratic nominee and Trump will be the republican nominee. My best guess is that Trump will win the 2024 election.

    Why will Trump win? Do you remember the 1992 election when Bush senior was running for re-election against Clinton? Do you remember how Ross Perot, a third-party candidate, got enough Republican votes that Bush senior lost to Clinton?

    There is a good chance that 2024 will be a repeat of 1992. The following four democrats are considering running as third-party candidates: RFK Jr, Joe Manchin, Cornel West, and Jill Stein. These democrats can divert enough votes away from Gavin Newsome allowing Trump's solid republican support to get him re-elected.

    What do you think?
     
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    Biden asked Hillary for support and she jumped at it. I wonder if she is hoping for the VP position.
     
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  10. Mary Stetler

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    What are your concerns about Ramaswamy? He is getting a bit agitated on occassion but is being pushed at every interview. He is smart, thinks on his feet and seems fair. A few small things I don't agree with but if Trump is out of the picture, Vivek would be my choice. He is not bought and paid for.
     
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    I will always like Ron DeSantis for his policies.
     
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    Ditto. I like him for a lot of reasons, his military service for another. He isn't some rich ivy-leaguer whose daddy paid his way to Harvard.
     
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  13. John Brunner

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    The only qualifier on that is he has had a Republican state legislature to support him. But those policies are certainly something that he supported.
     
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  14. Mary Stetler

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    Vivek won a scholarship to Harvard, I believe.
     
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    Vivek is not even on my radar, Mary. :p
     
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