Euthanasia

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    This is a Hot Button Issue, but we don't have a section in that part of the forum for this topic, so just beware that this is a hot button issue, one that you may not wish to be involved with. This video is just one opinion, one that I personally agree with, but there are other opinions, some of which I can empathize with, but without agreeing with them. This "doctor" would have made a good wife to Dr. Mengele.
     
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    Very disturbing @Ken Anderson! The "doctor" does seem to get pleasure in killing people. The "patient" in the video doesn't seem to be suffering unbearably, but she might be inconvenienced by her handicaps. I have seen a number of people who WERE suffering unbearably, but this women does not seem to be one of these. I wonder how difficult it is to make the jump from someone killing themselves when they are inconvenienced to the government killing people because they are inconvenient for the government, such as Social Security and Medicare recipients who drain resources but contribute little or nothing to the government in the way of taxes?
     
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    It would be a very short jump. At some point, probably early on, euthanasia would be the only treatment covered by our insurance or Medicare plan. The true objective is to rid the world of "useless eaters," as defined by the elite.
     
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    This is one of those things that can be either a good thing, or a really terrible thing, in my opinion. When my Father-in-law had his bad heart attack, he was left in sort of a comatose state. The hospital said he was brain dead when he didn’t wake up after a couple of days, but they kept him alive until the family could make a decision to take him off of life support.
    His lungs kept filling up and they had to suction them out so he could breathe, and they had to keep him under very heavy sedation, because when they tried lowering it, in hopes he might wake up, he started having terrible heart attacks again.
    Because the whole family was trying to decide what to do, I was the one who volunteered to stay with him at the hospital when the rest of them went to talk things over.

    It was horrible watching him die. He would be just lying there, and suddenly, sit straight up, eyes bugged out and looked like he was in horrible pain. I tried to hold him and talk to him and then it would subside and he would be comatose again.
    This was bad enough, but once they determined that since he was brain dead and only being kept alive by the machines and treatment, they stopped doing that.

    He ended up probably suffocating because of the lungs filling up. Giving him some kind of euthanasia would have been so much better and so much more humane.
    I dread the thought of even going to a hospital, no matter how sick I get, because I do not want to die like I watched him do.

    I don’t want to end up in a Soylent Green world either, but there needs to be some in-between where a person, or their family can say that it is time to let the person have a peaceful death.
     
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    @Yvonne Smith the unnatural part of your experience was the machines keeping you father-in-law alive. If the machines had not been there, he would perhaps not have suffered nearly as much if at all. Disconnecting life support is often the way to go to remove human suffering. Life support certainly has a place in medical care if there is a good possibility of a good life at the end, but keeping someone alive for the sake of prolonging their lives can be cruel. One of the things that life support is used for now, in addition to allowing family to say goodbye, is for organ harvesting purposes. Dead people are often kept "alive" until the organ harvesters (Angels of Death) can arrive to take the organs for donation.
     
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    Will not watch the video. We both have requested DNR in our will's and directives.
    If I can not function mentally and physically on my own-regardless of age, I want to pass away. .
    There is very little if any benefit in keeping a person alive by machine.
    My brother has dementia, he already has made plans when the time comes, for him to leave this world on his own terms. It sounds sad, but will be so much better for him and family not to drag things out any longer. When my mom had a massive stroke, they kept her alive until we got there.
    It is hard to define in some cases,having worked nursing home, watched others die in that 35 years- yes euthanasia
    is humane to the person and family left behind.
     
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    There's a big difference between taking someone off of life support, DNR requests, and euthanasia, I think.
     
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    A VERY big difference.
     
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