Buh-bye, Trudeau

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  1. Beth Gallagher

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    "Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Monday he intends to resign from his post but will stay until a new leader of the country's Liberal Party is in place, effectively ending nine years of power.

    Trudeau's departure comes amid mounting pressure for him to step aside before an upcoming election that his Liberal Party is forecasted to lose badly. The leader also has a complicated, oft-adversarial relationship with U.S. President-elect Donald Trump, who is set to be sworn in later this month." https://www.yahoo.com/news/canadian-prime-minister-justin-trudeau-160847013.html

    Typical liberals. They see that they are losing so have to shuffle candidates around. :rolleyes:
     
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    From what I have learned for nes postings from Canada, Trudeau has become very unpopular, as his policies are leading the country to ruin just as Biden's are. Trudeau has dealt with his unpopularity by shifting his ministers and blaming the ones he is "firing" for the problem. I guess that strategy has stopped working.
     
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    Justin Doughdough resigned so he could run for governor of the 51st state. :D
     
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    President Trump has several times referred to Trudeau as the “Governor of Canada”, and I think that he is definitely considering a possible merge of our two countries, at least in some way.
    We give Canada a lot of money, so merging them with the US would also give us a larger tax base and money coming in from there, and not just us giving them money every year.
     
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    I wonder whats gonna happen to Canada now? (I read Trump wants it (I saw that on city-data on the political base))
     
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    I doubt if Canada would consider being another state of the U.S. They have their own patriotic feelings about their country as any nation would. I'm thinking they are looking at how the liberal tide has shifted in the U.S. and are probably leaning in the same direction.
     
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    Then, the United States should consider not giving Canada over $7 million dollars in economic support each year, and we can instead use the money to help our own people.
    It makes no sense to me for the US to keep sending aid money to other countries, and not getting anything back. Especially now, when we are struggling so much, due to the terrible Biden economy and all the illegals draining our welfare system. Our elderly, disabled, and vets should be the people being helped, not illegals and other countries.
     
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    I don't think Trump was truly serious about Canada becoming part of the U.S. He was just making fun of Trudeau and what he has done to Canada. As has been said, Canada has its own patriotic feelings and traditions, and switching from a parliamentary form of government to a presidential type would not sit well with Canadians or their provinces. As I have said before, I think he is setting the groundwork for some kind of economic partnership or union that goes beyond the treaty we already have that was negotiated by Trump in his first term and is due for renewal next year. Mexico is now under de facto Communist leadership, so who knows what will happen there.
     
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    Canada needs to "MCGA" and pull themselves out of the woke culture ASAP. We need to stop sending them financial aid and bring the auto manufacturing jobs back to Detroit. They don't need (or want) to be a state. We need an equal trade agreement.
     
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    The automakers moved to Canada to take advantage of the free health care. It reduced their operating costs a good bit.
     
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    I expect something more like a trading relationship, something beyond NAFTA. I'm not sure whether that is good or bad.

    I can't see any merging without some serious housecleaning. It doesn't seem like a compatible political system, more like a series of cabals (parties) still kneeling to royalty and the WEF.

    The U.S. isn't set up to have parties though they quickly came about and consolidated power. Yet we still do a lot more direct voting for representatives and even the President than they do across the border.

    Maybe there's a 3-D map showing how it works there. But it feels like you only vote for parties and the winners choose the leaders themselves from among their own ranks.



    Who knew Canada was so non-white? I'd have no clue from time that I have spent there. Maybe things have changed since COVID came along?
     
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    Well, if that happens there will just be more indigents from the third world to care for. Then again, we sure could use the resources since overpopulations has diminished ours.
    Clean water in America is in trouble.
    At the same time as the flow of water and farms are diminishing, the influx of millions are invading. We gave China most of our fertile farmlands or did somebody sell it to them for a small price?
     
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    Parliamentary systems are set up to include the executive within the legislative. The PM is the person who can get a majority of the House of Commons to support him/her. This is usually done by forming a coalition, since majorities are difficult to achieve in a multi-party system, which most parliaments are comprised of. Occasionally a majority can be achieved and that makes governing much easier for the PM. The PM then selects the ministers that run the various divisions of government and they serve the purpose of pulling in enough of the minority parties to form the majority. The party with the largest number of members can persuade others to join them by offering, say treasury, to another party who would then join the coalition, etc. I really don't know how the upper house of parliament in Canada works since they don't really have lords per se as the UK does. Anyway, it is set up mostly to prevent the electorate from having a direct say and to prevent "radical elements" from being able to take over the government. That is why, when the U.S. sets up a government in another nation, it is always a parliamentary system since it is safer rather than a presidential system, since those are subject to becoming dictatorships. I think every presidential government has been a dictatorship at one time or another except the U.S. Parliamentary systems can be dictatorships as well, but it usually only occurs in times of crisis since parliaments "turn" so slowly that emergency powers sometimes have to be granted, such as Italy, Germany, Spain, and Russia in the period between the world wars. I think Britain also declared emergency as did France, but they both returned to some form of democratic government. France is weird, since it's president is the power figure, not the PM, who is actually the head-of-state. In most parliamentary systems, a president performs the duties of a constitutional monarch and has no real power (like Italy) if there is no monarch.

    Anyway, our Founders rejected a parliament in favor of a presidential system--which I think they invented--since they didn't think Congress would be in session most of the time and the voters would pay attention to what was going on. They failed in both those ideas, or rather WE failed them in both those ideas. They never dreamed we would allow so much corruption to enter our government, and they believed the states would serve to block it as well.
     
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