The Third Leading Cause Of Death In Us

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  1. Martin Alonzo

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    @Martin Alonzo Wondering if "cause of death" includes accidental and intentional, or only "natural", assuming medically-caused gets "written-up" as natural.
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    I'm sure accidental gets written up like that because families do sue, that's why drs have malpractice insurance.

    You can request an autopsy if you think something went wrong. I do know many older patients die of pneumonia that they got in the hospital.

    @Frank Sanoica , what do you mean by intentional? The Dr killed you on purpose?
     
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    Well that is certainly scary. I think the only thing you can do to protect yourself is to look at the hospital rankings and ratings and try to pick a good one to be your primary. I know years ago when my grandfather was in the hospital with a heart attack they gave him the wrong drug, which nearly made it a fatal one. Fortunately, he was able to recover, and lived another 40 years. I would have sued the hospital, but I don't think he even considered that.
     
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    @K E Gordon Understood, and appreciated! However, many of us rural folks have no option to choose a hospital; we must go with the one locally available (if there is one). In our case, the alternatives would be Las Vegas, 120 miles away, or Phoenix, 250. One of the prices we pay for relative solitude. Frank
     
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    Medical mistakes? Being the third cause of death, that means there are so many mistakes by the doctors? Some years ago, I have read an article about medical malpractice in the US as one source of income of lawyers who aid the victim patients in the malpractice cases. I understand that there are good and bad doctors, that they are also humans who can make mistakes. But since they are dealing with human lives, medical practitioners should be very careful in their pronouncements.

    In one government hospital here, there was a nurse who administered blood transfusion to a patient with a wrong blood type that caused the patient to be critically ill. And surgeons cannot be free from guilt when a patient would complain that something "inside" seemed out of place that later on would find an instrument inside the body of the patient. Truly it's difficult to be working in the medical field.
     
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    That was really a scary revelation. So many of the prescriptions and therapies of our time leave the sick at a lower level of health than before treatment. I believe that the highest ideal of the sincere health professional should be the well - being of patients, which would seem to include selecting the least invasive treatment and the least risk of side effects.
     
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    The emergency medical and surgery in the US is probably the best in the world but could it be improved?

    This is from a study done by Harvard health in this study it says that doctor who practise medicine should be drug tested just like anyone else. Especially before surgery or working in the hospital.

    When good doctors go bad

    There are some very good data about impaired physicians. We know, for example, that, just like civilians, about 10% of doctors have a problem with alcohol dependence and about 5% have a problem with drugs. With civilians, of course, it is illegal drugs. With doctors, it is legal drugs used illegally. But the numbers are pretty firm. There have been many studies of this. So 15%, I think, is a number that is realistic. In terms of mental illness, we have good information on that also. A recent very excellent study on a large population base showed that 16% of people had a disabling episode of depression at least one time in their life. That is certainly true of physicians. The suicide rate, as you may know, is higher in physicians than in civilians, so it may well be that our mental illness problem is even greater, but there is certainly no reason to think it is less.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1856582/

    C-diff [Clostridium difficile] this one bacterium the CDC puts C difficile burden at 453,000 cases 29,000 deaths per year. This comes from only one place it is a human shit bacterium so some one doctor/nurses are not washing their hand after they go to the bathroom.

    Error in medicine

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1856582/

    Just think the death certificate was just filled out by the person that might have killed you.
     
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    Since I can't operate on myself, I'll have to take the chance. Drs and nurses have tough schedules, maybe like pilots they shouldn't be allowed long shifts. I'm talking about the ER and hospital now.
     
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    @Hoot Crawford
    Hoot,

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    iiioa,,,, change keyboard position. 'clerical errors happen'
    oops...

    notice the DATE ON THIS POST ? "Third leading cause of death" has been a topic on this forum FOR YEARS. (you missed that?) In several threads and many posts. It has also been known for almost half a century, btw.
     
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    In the USA, Federal Law, passed by the drug manufacturers/ pharmakeia/ big pharma,

    prohibits a licensed care provider or licensed doctor under the AMA from "ideal", they are not even allowed to mention what is best for the well being of patients, and they might or might not mention what is least invasive treatment at all.

    The least risk of side effects ? Go outside the AMA, to an experienced, perhaps licensed health care giver in another discipline. The pharm protocols usually if not always cause the most side effects, and doctors usually if not always have to stick / stay inside/ those protocols.
     
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    Hearth disease is ranked #1.

    Here is a chart, so I guess that #4 is unintentional deaths (perhaps some caused by doctors).
    Also, we need to watch the series that is now on T.V. called The Crime of the Century. I have been riveted to the show, and I am appalled by members of Congress who were responsible for a large part of the deaths that have occurred. According to this website: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6450a3.htm this fact is stated:

    "From 2000 to 2014 nearly half a million persons in the United States have died from drug overdoses." (first sentence after discussion at bottom), mostly oxycodone and heroin.
    This is astonishing to me.

    If you haven't been watching this (3 part) series, you need to.


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    It was congress that passed the laws that protect the drug lords (makers) and passed the laws or regulation that prevent them from being accountable for the disease, seizures, sids, autism, cancer, and deaths they cause daily.
    This was known decades ago, and is almost if not actually impossible to challenge or to change.

    The government total payroll is far less than the drug lords (makers) profits , so guess who is actually in charge/ control.
    The so-called "lobbyists" are merely a tiny distraction from what is going on behind the scenes, even if they each get a million dollars daily !
     
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    Interesting that deaths from heart disease and cancer have not gone down despite all the funding devoted to them.
     
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    It is significant, but not for any reason publicly admitted.
    Dr. Coca, nearly a century ago, Drs Shutes and Linus Pauling and Carey Reams, and around 100,000 other doctors who were/are licensed AMA doctors in the USA,
    know how to prevent those things, simply. When knowledge is not lacking, healthy is not only feasible , it is likely and simple.
    Note that only a small percentage of doctors admit this publicly, and some that did bring it out in the open, like also the cause of autims, and the damage caused by iummunizations, were silenced.
     
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