No Room At The Inn

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  1. Diane Lane

    Diane Lane Veteran Member
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    This is the story of a mother who savagely attacked her little boy, to the extent that the doctors didn't think he would survive. Apparently she had been exhibiting symptoms of mental illness prior to the attack, but didn't get help. Thankfully he lived, and seems to be doing well, but I have a difficult time believing there will be no lingering psychological effects. Meanwhile, his mother was found not guilty by reason of insanity, but the real insanity is that she will be out walking the streets, because there isn't a bed available at the facility where she was sentenced to obtain treatment.

    "the DA's office said she will be released and under the strict supervision of doctors for now."

    Does that mean she will be watched over 24/7 by doctors, and that the public will be safe from her? No. It means she will probably check in with them now and then, assuming she doesn't slip off somewhere and disappear.
     
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    I didn't read the story Diane but have the gist of it :(
    Exactly the same over here and I'm so tired of hearing 'lessons have been learned' - nothing ever changes
    there's always another similar case !
     
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    That's the problem in today's world. People,who should be in mental hospitals or on meds aren't.

    The ones that need the meds should be followed up on to make sure they are taking them. It's when they go off of them that they go nuts and harm innocent people.

    I'm not talking about mild depression either, I'm talking major mental illness that needs hospitalized and heavy duty drugs.

    I'm sure the money is there, I can't believe our country doesn't have enough money for everything it's just that it's either stolen or gone in red tape.
     
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    Yep I agree with Pasty...I'm sick and tired of evil deeds going unpunished or untreated...and trite comments such as ''lessons will be learned'' which are trotted out with monotonous regularity.

    The worst thing that ever happened..certainly to this country..was the care in the community law. Now we have known severely disturbed people walking the streets among us ...and in charge of their own medication which so often they neglect at the physical and mental cost to everyone else.

    That poor little boy , just another statistic in the eyes of the law and the government .....lessons will NOT be learned, they never are!!
     
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    I knew someone on our street when growing up had a history of mental illiness in her family, she had a nervous breakdown and was put in the hospital. After awhile she was let out but had to be on meds but quit taking them...most do and that's a big problem.

    She always went crazy when off the meds and ended up back in the hospital. I know people have rights and can't be forced to take meds but then they should be kept in the hospital if they're proven a danger to themselves or society.

    That's our big problem..we have too many mentally ill people roaming the streets and/or trying to be parents etc.

    It never ends well...
     
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    Couldn't agree more *C*....
     
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    Just going off topic here for a sec....welcome back! Did you have a good time in Spain? You are back, right?
     
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    Thank you.:)..yes I'm back, got back last night. Had a great time...exhausting but very good..didn't want to come home.

    I hate leaving my daughter and the grandfurkids up in the mountains...but that four letter word rears it's ugly head all the time, and I have to be back there on Monday.. *sigh*
     
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    For me, the mere attempt of the mother to harm her child is already a sign of insanity. And to think of the doctor's opinion that the boy was lucky to live that means the injury inflicted by the mother was tremendous. It is not a matter of insanity or normalcy but that incident should be taken into full consideration on the part of the child - that the boy should be given a TPO, that is Temporary Protection Order against the mother. My impression of the mother is like one drug crazed addict not knowing what she was doing. She needs to be in an institution for her own sake... and ours too.
     
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    When I was in nursing school and we were a little apprehensive about our rotation to the large state psychiatric hospital, one of our instructors stated: "don't be afraid of the ones in there, be afraid of who's on the street."
     
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    (humorous). I injured my hand at work on the machine we were building, and our Machinist, Roy, volunteered to take me to Ft. Wayne, 10 miles away, to the hospital, to get it X-rayed. Residents of Chicago, we knew squat about Ft. Wayne, but instructions to Roy directed him to go to State Street proceeding east. We spotted the big brick structure, walked up the front steps, into a long hallway, no reception area, nor employee visible. Walking along the hallway, we finally encountered someone who asked about our presence there. Roy spoke up, "He needs an X-ray of his hand". The woman seemed lost in thought, so he followed up with, "This IS a hospital, isn't it"?

    She said yes, but the one we wanted was half a mile farther east. This was the Indiana State Mental Hospital!

    Everyone had a good laugh when we returned to the Plant!
    Frank
     
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  12. Diane Lane

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    But, they should be forced to take meds if those meds keep their psychosis or other severe mental issues at bay. If the government can force teen girls to take birth control pills, they should be able to force people to take these meds. I'm the first one to stand up against government interference in our lives, but we're talking about severely mentally disturbed people. My preference would be to keep them contained, and not let them roam freely. We seem to have plenty of money for other projects, yet not enough to take care of those in this category. I had to take a class trip to a mental hospital years ago when I was first in college, and it was scary, but what's even scarier is that some of those same people are probably roaming the streets these days, if they're still alive. It's absolutely disgusting to me that this woman is roaming free. These people aren't capable of making a decision about taking or discontinuing their medication.
     
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    Mental illness is a growing problem in our society. Why? Here in Kansas, our Governor has cut most of the funds for assisting the mentally ill. (He has also cut highway funds for project through 2020, education funds to the point where the State Supreme Court had to step in, etc.) Our local police department has had to hire additional staff just to assist with handling the mentally unstable since local and area facilities can no longer afford to take them in.

    This really hits home. We have a 19 year old granddaughter who is mentally challenged. She does not have the capacity to hold a job. She lives in an apartment fairly close to us so we can look in on her. She has to be prodded to take a shower once/week or she will go weeks without doing so. She has to be assisted with getting her laundry picked up and washed or she will wear the same clothes for days. She cannot be left with food in her apartment or it will sit out and spoil. She even has trouble remembering to flush the toilet until it plugs up. Yet, she is "not ill enough" to be admitted to an on-campus facility for the mentally ill. There are no group homes available. The few that are in our State are filled and have waiting lists. Why? There is no funding available to open new homes or facilities to house/help those who are in need.
    We have seemed to place "mental illness" in a completely different category than cancer, diabetes, heart disease, a broken limb, or even the flu. Once can go to a hospital and get an injury or disease treated. If that person is unable to work or falls below the poverty line, there is State assistance for the medical costs. No so with mental illness.
    The result is children in homes with mentally ill parents who have no means of getting help. Children are abused and neglected by mentally challenged parents. We had over 100 foster children in our home, over the years, and are witness to the damage caused by mentally ill parents.
    Somewhere along the way, we as a society have to step up and admit that mental illness is a disease/injury/medical issue. And, we have to see that there are proper facilities to treat/house those with severe challenges.
     
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  14. Diane Lane

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    It's a shame that there are no slots in the available programs. There is so much need not only for the mentally ill, but also for other needs. Despite there being programs for those unable to pay for medical care, as well as for utility assistance and other such issues, there are still those of us who are unable to pay or qualify for assistance. After I pay for Medicare, I can't afford actual treatment or medication. There is way too much money going to scammers, earmarked for [projects related to those with friends in high places, and foreign aid, and not enough for those here in the U.S. with legitimate needs. Some states are better than others with regard to helping those with this and other type of needs, but unfortunately I'm not in one of them, and it sounds as if your granddaughter isn't, either. She doesn't sound as if she's able to function independently enough to warrant being in her own apartment, but it sounds as if that's the only option right now.
     
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    As I keep repeating in other Threads.......it's all about money! There will always been medical problems in America and Foreign Aid to those countries that have disasters happen. Just like how much money to we put into our military to keep Bases throughout the world and to fight battles that need to be fought for peace. Federal, State and City funds go where officials think is necessary and that isn't always where "Joe Public" thinks those funds should go. Then again, there is only so much Funds that can be allocated to certain things.
    And, there are those that need help, but don't go to get it.
     
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