How Do You Feel About Trump Now?

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  1. Don Alaska

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    Amen!
     
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    I know we need some "new blood" in our Government...but evidently AOC was given a transfusion from Nancy Pelosi and it infected her with Democratic insanity.
     
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    A picture does often say it all....this one tells me our President's heart is definitely for America and Americans. :)
     
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    He is the most colorful President I have known...even more colorful than Truman!

    Hal
     
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    I have never seen a politician say what he would do in office and then turn around and do everything that he has said.
    That in it self should make him the best president the US has ever had. You are luck to have a man of his word. Honesty in a politician is very hard to find.
     
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    @Martin Alonzo
    In my estimation, it has become very nearly impossible. Those already in office disallow the entry of any new-comers whom they know to be honest.
    Frank
     
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    Honestly I can't stand the man; I think he's boorish and I wish he'd give Twitter a rest. Unfortunately the last election was another "chose the lesser of two evils" situation and I am a right-leaning Independent. The Dems are scaring me with their hysterics and Socialism, so I'll have to stick with The Donald for now. God have mercy on us.
     
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    Trump is a populist. While globalists and statists like to pretend that there's something wrong with that, a populist is precisely what a republic needs - someone who represents the people he was elected to represent. If we wanted leaders, we could have a dictator or a king. Trump spoke to the issues that were important to the people who voted for him. If he stops doing that, the people who voted for him will not do so again. While he may have some followers, most Trump supporters are not followers.
     
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    The most avid Trump supporters are not solid Republicans and many of them, like myself, are not Republicans at all. Republicans lost, all the way around, at the polls in Maine during the last election. While the media's interpretation of it was that this was a reaction against Trump, the truth was that the Republicans who lost were the ones who did not support Trump. Former US Congressman Bruce Poliquin, for example. He never wasted an opportunity to get in front of the cameras to complain about Trump. He lost to a Democrat who pretended to be a conservative. Because he ran a commercial showing himself at a gun range, people voted for him, but the real reason was that no one on the pro-Trump side was in the running. Independents, not Republicans, gave Trump the only electoral vote he got in Maine.

    It sometimes frustrates, but mostly amuses me when people know so little about politics that they assume that the Republican Party is a conservative party, while the Democrats are liberal. Until Trump came along to upset the cart, the Republican Party had long been controlled by progressive Republicans, who have the same globalist goals as progressive Democrats, only they have decided that they can do more for the globalist cause within the Republican Party than from within the Democrat Party.

    There was a lot that I didn't so much understand at the time, but I think that Ronald Reagan may have had some noble goals when he decided to run for president in 1976, but the Republican Party didn't want noble goals. They wanted someone who wouldn't upset the apple cart. Rhetoric is one thing, but they didn't want anyone who would actually change the agenda. By the time the general election came around, it didn't matter whether Ford or Carter won the election because they'd both follow the same agenda.

    By the time that 1980 came around, Reagan had promised to surround himself with members of the Council on Foreign Relations, who would keep him on track. Otherwise, the GOP would not have supported his candidacy. Pat Buchanan, who was once the communications director for Reagan, later said that Reagan gave the speeches but Bush set the policy. The result was that while conservatives loved Reagan's rhetoric, the federal government grew bigger and more entangled overseas under his watch.

    Likewise, in subsequent elections, Reagan-Mondale, Bush-Dukakis, Clinton-Bush, Clinton-Dole, Bush-Gore, Bush-Kerry, Obama-McCain, Obama-Romney, it didn't really matter who won because both the Republican and the Democrat would be following a globalist agenda. The Republican might take a different path so that the scenery would change, but the ultimate destination was the same.

    2016 was the first election in my lifetime in which there was an actual choice. It could not be assured that Trump would follow the same agenda, and this is why he had to run against the Democrats, the Media, the Deep State, and the Establishment within his own political party.

    Does this mean that he is perfect? Of course not, and we don't care if he's perfect as long as he is willing to follow another agenda. Given that we are not followers, we don't worship the man. Does this mean that he has all the answers? No, but it seems that he knows that we've been on the wrong path for too long.

    It also amuses me when people point to Fox News as if it were a conservative news media. Oh, it's not radical leftist like CNN, MSNBC, and most of the others, but neither is it conservative. Fox has a neoconservative bias. They are the ones who fought against Trump getting the Republican nomination, and the moment that they can find a way to bring Trump down, they will do so. Fox News represents the views of Republicans like Susan Collins, Mitt Romney, and Lisa Murkowski, who probably voted for Hillary in 2016. I may live in Maine, but I have never voted for Susan Collins.
     
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  13. Don Alaska

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    I agree with you, @Ken Anderson, Trump is not a conservative, but he has conservative leanings. He is cleaning up a lot of the messes (or trying to) that have been left and kicked down the road by previous administrations. You have the same problem with Susan Collins that we have with Murkowski. Fox is always treated as a conservative voice, because they do allow the conservative opinions to be expressed, and have some conservative programming, but I agree with you that it is not a conservative network. There are conservative voices on the radio and on the internet, but none, as far as I know, on television. Of course there are a few conservative shows on Fox, but there are none on CNN or MSNBC.

    I felt Mr. Trump did well in the news conference tonight, and I am more and more impressed by Mike Pompeo. Pompeo may not be quite the forceful personality that Jim Baker was, but he seems to perform his job well, and has incredible knowledge of the world at large.
     
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    Trump 2020!
     
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    A gay Never-Trumper converts. Take it as you will:
     
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