How Does History Deal With Slavery?

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  1. Rene Descartes

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    My dad was career Army--Korean War vet as well. Even though he was born and raised in Alabama, he was not racist. He said any person willing to take a bullet for this country has his respect.
     
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    @Rene Descartes
    No disrespect intended, but I disagree.......our young men are sent off to war by order of the government. I would seriously doubt that very many regard their duties as being willing to "take a bullet for their country".
    Frank
     
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    I suppose it is how you look at something. They could have gone to Canada and gotten stoned.
     
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    @Rene Descartes
    True enough. And no doubt many remained here and got stoned. My neighbor and friend described his life on board an aircraft carrier in the Navy, around 1980: during shore leave, large amounts of drugs were brought back aboard, the process seemingly unimportant to the "brass". My friend would hardly take a beer after I met him, and like me, has never smoked a cigarette in his life.
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    The ideas push in the media and by anyone who wants to take advantage of the situation.
    That the USA was the first and only nation to liberate the slaves. Then they went on to push the rest of the world to change.
    This video explains it better than me.
    The MAOIST AGENDA Behind Toppling Historic Statues
     
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    The African slave brokers who rounded up the slaves that were shipped to the US were black human cargo profiteers...See the movie "Roots".

    H.P.
     
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    The Ku Klux Klan was populated by mostly Democrats.

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    I looked all over the forum and this particular short study just didn’t seem to fit anywhere hence a thread of it’s own.
    It’s well known that slavery / man’s inhumanity to man, has been around for centuries but when I ran across
    this video I, for whatever reason, didn’t realize the total scope that slavery held in the world. Why not?
    Dunno. I’ve never really studied the practice but maybe it’s time I did.

    For instance, it was revealed in the video that the U.S. was the first slave holding country in the world to abolish the practice of slavery.
    There’s more of interest in the video and as a matter of fact, I’m going back to see it again.

     
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    I thought it was England that was the first to ban slavery in 1833.

    I have spent hours reading and watching docos on slavery and have found the whole subject appaling but interesting.
     
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    It's still going on, but we don't hear anything about it.
    The world's cynical media care for nothing but lies and politics.

    ps: Love me some Dr. Sowell. Sadly, a contemporary of his (Walter Williams) recently passed away.
     
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    I’ll have to look it up and see if it was on the same line as here in the U.S.
    The ban on the buying and selling of slaves came before the actual ban on slavery.
     
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    Might be somewhat off topic, but I just finished slogging through a 400p book "Wie die Deutschen Christen Wurden" (How the Germans became Christians). It was essentially the history of western Europe from the 4th through the 9th century. What I thought was interesting was the slave trade. Traveling merchants bought and sold slaves. There were certain rules, such as only Christians could sell Christian slaves, but Christians could buy and own non Christian slaves. The rules were quite complicated.
    Interesting it was that Christianity found its way into some of the pagan Germanic tribes by way of the Christian slaves they had bought.
     
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    That is interesting indeed!
    I’ve been perusing some of the “rules” too but from the perspective of the Hebrew pre-Talmudic and Talmudic eras of slaves. The Jews had two sets of rules for non-Hebrew (Cannanites) slaves and Hebrew slaves. I believe the chief reason for the two sets of rules is because in fact, even though the Hebrew slaves were held as slaves they were actually indentured servants. Either they sold themselves to slave owners or were heavily in debt.
    The Cannonites however were generally prisoners of war with a secondary justification of being enslaved having to do with the curse of Canaan, the son of Ham.

    All that said, one of the most well known rules was that each slave only had to serve for 7 years and at that point was offered a release. The majority of Jewish slaves (servants) stayed with the owners because they were living better than they would on their own. There are a few more rules for the release of slaves I’m still going over. It’s almost like reading the articles of the Constitution.
    Note: In a way, slaves or servants remaining with their owners is reminiscent of the slaves in the United States post Emancipation Proclamation. I digress.
    Another really interesting rule was that a slave owner could be publicly punished if he abused his slaves in any way. That particular rule was put in place in memory of their own enslavement to the Egyptians.

    Looking back at your post James, I think that as I study further, I might start building a map or maps detailing the slaves that were transported to foreign lands just to get a better grip on how the enslaved groups helped change or how well they intermixed with the culture in their new land regarding religion, food, music, law etc.
    After all, I’m a Louisiana guy where the name of the game is Gumbo, the Swahili (Bantu) word for....okra.
    Those slaves had to come a long way to teach us how to make the best stew in the world.
     
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    I was a faculty member (Foreign Languages) at LSU for 22 years. I'm about to plant this years okra crop so that I can make my gumbo.
     
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