Have You Had Anyone In Your Circle Test Positive For The Virus?

Discussion in 'Viruses' started by Lon Tanner, Dec 2, 2020.

  1. Faye Fox

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    I posted a study before that was conducted by scientists in cooperation with the mask makers. The conclusion was the M 95 was the only one with any effective values and it was minimal.

    The masking is effective only in controlling people. It is an experiment in control and submission. Any serious virus control would be focused on contact, the hands, and the constant nose-wiping and mucous that is everywhere. Watch in the grocery stores and you will see produce people pull down their masks and wipe across their noses. Then they go back to handling produce. The mucous-hosted virus, any virus, cold or flu, etc., can live in this happy environment for several hours, maybe days even if refrigerated.

    Distancing means nothing unless one with covid coughs directly in another person's face. This is now becoming evident with distancing being reduced to 3 feet. The virus doesn't turn corners, it does not jump up off the sidewalk, it isn't floating around in the air, it doesn't fall from the sky do a UFO L move and blast up your nose, and is MAINLY spread the same way the common cold coronavirus is spread, by CONTACT. The air-born possibility of infection is very low. What was once solid medical science is now called a conspiracy.

    Wear 3 masks if you want, but when you eat that juicy head of lettuce with mucous hosted Wuhan lab developed Covid and come down with Sars2/Coronavirus know as Covid, then don't be puzzled how you got it and don 4 masks.

    The only way the lockdown at Lon's place will work is by limited contact with the outside world and only if the staff uses a high percentage of alcohol to clean their hands every time they touch something.
     
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  2. Bobby Cole

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    My question didn’t really have anything to do with Lon but had to do with the obvious mistrust that the vaccinations are gleaning.

    And yes, by all means do whatever the WH says to do because everyone knows that the “experts” are right up front and totally honest about everything they publicize. Neither have an agenda, the President isn’t politically driven, and everything everyone does at the capital is only thinking of how to better your life. They are after all.....gods.

    Now, how did your wife become an expert in accounting? Was she born an expert? No, she studied. Believe it or not, no one is too old to study the very same information that the so called experts have studied to come to their conclusions.
    The more the experts involved with our lives can depend upon ignorance, passivity and the reluctance (or laziness) to do the homework, they’ll do what we let them do to us. Study the science. Not political science, not science politicized nor may I venture, Christian science but science.
     
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  3. Cody Fousnaugh

    Cody Fousnaugh Supreme Member
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    Again, Bobby, you believe who you want to believe and we will do the same. That's it!
     
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  4. Cody Fousnaugh

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    As far as your reply here..........well, whatever! Again, as I've told Bobby, you believe what you want to and we will do the same. We have now got to the point where we don't care what others think, or read/study, we only care about what we think/read.
     
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  5. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Why don't both of you, Bobby and Faye, tell the staff where Lon lives what you have told me. Love to hear what they would have to say. One thing for sure, they aren't going to stop with the masking wearing and distancing, possibly like both of you think they should. So, both of you can say whatever you want to me, but the staff at the Asst. Living sure aren't going to listen to either of you. And, Lon won't either!

    And, as I've stated in another reply, Lon has to follow the rules or stay in his room or not live anymore where he does.
     
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  6. Bobby Cole

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    That is an absolutely preposterous statement Cody!
    How does one tell the staff anything at a place one does not know where it is or what the name is?
    Oh, I’m sure Lon has said what the name is but it’s rather unimportant is it not?
    If I did know and also knew who the CEO of that corporations is, then I might indeed ask what good the vaccinations are doing if they have to go through lockdown once again but answer would obviously be that it’s a liability issue more than an issue of health.
    Just like our local Wellness Center, the staff does what they are instructed to do by the hospital it is associated with. Many of the staff members do not believe the masks do any good at all and a couple have already told me that they’re not getting the vaccinations but yet, they are trained “experts”.

    Liability and lawsuits are the main concern (other than making money) for any corporation involved with anything medical. Lon and the rest of the residents and staff are stuck in a precarious situation and whether they like the masks or the inoculations or not doesn’t matter so don’t compare your situation with Lon’s. I will guarantee one thing though. Some of those residents who, because of the rules they have to live under, cannot see their loved ones for however long the period this time will be, are ticked.
    They’ve been shot up, masked up and still, they’re locked down.
     
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  7. Cody Fousnaugh

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    With your knowledge, I have no doubt that you could, if you wanted to, find out who runs Lon's Asst. Living and ask the person and/or company.

    And, from recent pictures that Lon has displayed on here, the masking and distancing had stopped. Take a look inside their dining room for their dinner time. No mask and no distancing. It had stopped! Lon, and a few other residents, even took a van trip to a local park. Now, the Asst. Living has decided to "lock down, mask and distance" for whatever reasons. The residents may not like it or their families, but they aren't in-charge of the facility. Yes, the residents have got their vaccines, but the owners still want the residents to be even more protected.

    This Asst. Living is full of folks 10+ years older than we are and even older than that. Whomever owns this place simply can't take any chances. They sure don't want any media attention due to a death that may be related to the virus.

    Come on Bobby, you have to know what I'm saying.
     
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  8. Bobby Cole

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    By 1700 hrs today, there will be no mask mandate for the state of Alabama. The businesses and corporations that employ thousands of people are free to make their own rules regarding those employees and their clients, customers and guests.
    Those who want the inoculations get them and those like myself who do not trust them, don’t.
    But it’s going to get hairy. Companies do not like paying out money for an employee who gets injured or sick on the job so they’ll probably keep the mask mandate for them. As far as clients, guests and customers, some will opt to keep the mask mandate for fear of frivolous law suits that the Government will undoubtedly ask people to engage in should they suspect that they got sick by frequenting said business. For many people, it will be a lot easier pickin’ than pretending to get injured by a moving car.

    I’m free, well over 21 and I have learned to study in order to formulate my own decisions with certainty so that I can be even more free than those I see following the herd with such a broken down spirit that freedom is only a word or a name brand and nothing more. I can go where I want, gather with others of my ilk and do what I wish to do as long as I am not hampering anyone else’s freedom to do as they see fit.

    For Lon and many like him, he couldn’t possibly have seen the future when he signed his name on the dotted line and handed over his money but now he’s stuck unless he makes other arrangements. It could get better where he is or worse, no one can tell.
    But one thing is for certain; the business that holds the sword over those residents will undoubtedly hold that sword at the ready to prevent that company from losing even one penny and if it means being lord and master over those residents to fill pockets then that’s what they will do.
    If they really really cared about the feelings of those they command they’d have a board meeting and grant the residents a BIG discount whilst the mandates are being employed but alas, again it is just a business.
     
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  9. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Why don't we just wait and see what Lon says about all of these replies? Then again, perhaps he doesn't want to become a part of the argument that his thread started. Who knows?

    As for us, we are both over 21 and free, but can still get sick. For us, we will just follow what we are told to do and we feel that, what we are told to do, is best for us.

    Gee, just think folks, what if (big words, but), the virus gets so bad again that many things go back the way they were before the vaccines came out. None of us want that, but there are those that won't follow certain things, suggested/told to them and will have to see what happens later.
     
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  10. Ken Anderson

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    Both my current doctor and my previous doctor, who we're friends with, think the mask requirements are crazy, but they have to enforce them in order to adhere to the medical group policies, which were dictated by a governor who has probably never even taken a first aid course, on the recommendations of someone who doesn't follow his own recommendations.
     
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  11. Lon Tanner

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    The Assisted Living Exe Director is following the requirements imposed by the local health authorities. This whole COVID thing has disrupted every ones life and following a few more restrictions doesn't bother me.
     
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    Argument? Unless you are somehow offended by what I have written there has been no argument on my side.

    The long and short of it is that I wrote that you can do what you wish no matter what the science really says and you defended your right to do what you want because that’s what the White House wants you to do.

    But that’s the whole point is it not? Without government mandates we, as free people, can study the situation and make up our own minds whether or not we use masks or vaccines. We can look at the facts and come to a conclusion that we can successfully realize and practice life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    Now, as far as Lon goes, he wrote that he can live with the inconvenience but as I wrote before, it isn’t about Lon. My question was rhetorical at best.
    It’s about the mistrust that even the government has concerning the value of billions of dollars worth of vaccines that are being handed out and sold. If the Federal Officials did trust the vaccines in full, they wouldn’t be double masked and threatening to bring back the lockdowns which by the bye, the majority of American citizens will NOT do again. You may and some others may, but the majority will not stand for it anew.
     
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  13. Cody Fousnaugh

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    See, like many of us, it has disrupted our lives, but..........he also states "following a few more restrictions doesn't bother me".

    And, I guess if anyone on this forum was to dispute what his Assisted Living has gone back to, masks, distancing and no visitors, you'll have to discuss it with the local health authorities.
     
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  14. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Bobby, there are lots and lots of folks in the U.S. that don't care what you or I think. Now, if Alabama ends up with a major spike, like Michigan is now having, I guess it will just happen. It's already been stated that many, many folks feels much, much safer with having both vaccines than before. But, since it's a requirement, at least here, to keep wearing a mask and distancing, that's what most residents will do. I see very few-to-zero residents here not wearing a mask.

    I would tell anyone this, Bobby, but if you don't like our elected officials in the WH, you could always move to another country that has a better government. That is, if you can find one.

    Lon can do nothing about what's happening where he lives, but, the way you talk, he should do something.
     
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  15. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Ok, Bobby, enough is enough from both of us!

    Continue on, Lon.
     
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