What Are Your Thoughts On Artificial Intelligence?

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  1. Joy Martin

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    Truth or Consequences, that is the question.


    https://www.technocracy.news/godfath...f-a-i-dangers/

    Geoffrey Hinton is a legend in the A.I. world. He is not only having negative thoughts about what he has invented, but he is doing a complete reversal, saying that A.I. has the potential to destroy civilization and in multiple ways. He joins other top computer scientists in trying to slow down development and put guard rails up on how A.I. should be used.⁃ TN Editor
    The ‘Godfather of Artificial Intelligence‘ has sensationally resigned from Google and warned the technology could upend life as we know it.

    Geoffrey Hinton, 75, is credited with creating the technology that became the bedrock of A.I. systems like ChatGPT and Google Bard.

    But the Turing prize winner now says a part of him regrets helping to make the systems, that he fears could prompt the proliferation of misinformation and replace people in the workforce.

    He said he had to tell himself excuses like ‘if I didn’t build it, someone else would have’ to prevent himself from being overwhelmed by guilt.

    He drew comparisons with the ‘father of the atomic bomb’ Robert Oppenheimer, who was reportedly distraught by his invention and dedicated the rest of his life to stopping its proliferation.

    Geoffrey Hinton, 75, who is credited as the ‘Godfather of Artificial Technology’, said that a part of him now regrets helping to make the systems.
     
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  3. John Brunner

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    I, too, read an article on this. As always, "there are questions for scientists and ethicists." Sure there are. Those questions have been out there since I started reading Popular Science in the 60s...and likely before hand. Even if the questions get asked and answered, it has no impact.
     
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    US Air Force Trained A Drone With AI To Kill Targets
    It Attacked The Operator Instead


    -The Air Force was testing drones trained on Artificial Intelligence
    -The Air Force ran simulated operations to test the technology against surface-to-air missiles
    -The drones would seek out enemy targets
    -The operator would issue either a "Kill" order or a "Stand Down" order

    -The drone was awarded points for every successful Kill
    -Every "Stand Down" order militated against the drone's reward system
    -In response, the drone killed the operator to halt the "Stand Down" orders

    -The drone was then reprogrammed to lose points every time it killed the operator
    -In response, the drone took out the comm systems from which the "Stand Down" orders were broadcast


    Any of us here could have seen this coming.
     
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    Very similar to the Soviets during WWII when they trained dogs to carry explosives that would blow up under enemy tanks.
    The problem was that the dogs were trained using Soviet tanks so the dogs, when put into actual action, well, ya know. Boom! A few less Soviet tanks.
     
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    Now the Air Force is backtracking on the story, claiming that the story was "anecdotal," and the remarks were taken out of context.

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    They need an antidote to help clean up their anecdotes and I don’t think ai is the answer to that.
     
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    As issued by government:


    The kitty goes "Woof!"
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    ChatGPT delivers sermon to packed German church

    University of Vienna theologian and philosopher Jonas Simmerlein, 29, used ChatGPT to craft a "service" as part of Deutscher Evangelischer Kirchentag, a popular biennial event that occurs in Nuremburg and nearby Fürth and attracts tens of thousands of Christians. Issues addressed at this year's event include climate change, the war in Ukraine and AI (you know, things central to the Christian faith.)

    From the article:

    Hundreds attended a Protestant church service Friday in Germany generated almost entirely by artificial intelligence, with a sermon presented by the AI chatbot ChatGPT.

    The chatbot, which presented as a Black man with a beard above the altar of St. Paul's Church in Fürth, Bavaria, told the packed congregation not to fear death, according to the Associated Press.

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    "Dear friends, it is an honor for me to stand here and preach to you as the first artificial intelligence at this year's convention of Protestants in Germany," the AI avatar said.

    Yeh, I'm not worried.
     
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    I’m sure it was an impassioned message given by something that feels nothing.
     
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    AI is in it's infancy yet a lot of doomsayers are predicting that it will be the end of the world way, way prematurely. I think it will accelerate human potential exponentially, especially in medicine. A doctor has to mentally go through a list of possible causes of symptoms, but AI will essentially be a bunch of second opinions, and will spit out the answer. If the doctor concurs, solution found. There will be a human fail-safe in medicine and everything else where AI is used.
     
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    It’s really hard to predict where this will go. It could be it will become ever more sophisticated but still be computer code without consciousness or ambition. On the other hand, many such concepts are poorly understood in humans and maybe computer code is not that different from what goes on in our minds. It’s been interesting to see how single minded, almost obstinate, some A.I.s have been about certain tasks. Or maybe it will be something totally different and it doesn’t matter what it is, we’re just stuck dealing with the consequences.

    Also, that’s true about A.I. picking up on things, subtle patterns and correlations, that are simply beyond human perception abilities. Interesting times.
     
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    Isn’t that pretty much the way it is now?
    A doctor sees a patient and directs someone to punch a bunch of keys and then sends the patient to someone else who punches a bunch of keys so a machine can analyze a potential problem and then that information is passed onto someone else who punches a bunch of keys.
    At that time the last key puncher sends the information to the first key puncher who tells the doctor that according to the computer behind all thet key punching that the patient is dead.
     
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    You better believe that thing has a camera and is analyzing facial expressions.
    Get 100% on board...it can't be fooled. No masks allowed.

    Next Week's Sermon: Jesus turns water into Bud Light for the groom and groom.
     
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    There has already been a real-world instance of a lawyer using AI to do research on precedence, and AI fabricated "previous" cases that never actually existed. The lawyers actually filed a brief citing them. "Six of the submitted cases appear to be bogus judicial decisions with bogus quotes and bogus internal citations," Judge Castel wrote in an order demanding the man's legal team explain itself. link

    Relying on AI "human fail-safe" is the abortion equivalent of "mother's life at risk."
     
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