Vatican Takes Refugees

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  1. Terry Page

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    [QUOTE="Ken Anderson, post: 73907, member: 2"roverbs 3:5-6, which says, "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding."

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    If this is the case then true Christians should follow:

    "Psalm 82:4
    Rescue the weak and the needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked."

    Without using their own understanding from the bias of the media or the government, this would apply to these refugees surely?
     
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    The bible suggests a lot of things..and it's true Christians endlessly debate but the following verse to me is the bottom line. I don't necessarily agree the United States should take in millions of refugees..but I understand his concern and empathy for the true victims of war.

    I think it's important to treat each other with kindness and caring. I'm glad we live in a country where church and state are separate. I don't view the Pope as Catholics do...but so what..I respect their right to believe as they choose and we do agree on many things.

    I honestly don't think our leaders here are going to take his political advice..or any from the Dali Lama as far as that goes.

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    I think we should be a bit wary of taking literal interpretations of anything in any versions of the bible. Let's take the fourth commandment about graven images, for example. If this had been followed literally, there would be precious little medieval art left to enjoy.
     
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    That was for people, not governments.
     
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    I can see where lapsed Catholics might love the new Pope. Pretty much, he is telling Catholics that they don't have to worry about any of that stuff in the Bible. As long as it doesn't sting their conscience, they are good to go as far as the Church is concerned. If God speaks directly to the Pope, I wonder why he changes his mind so often. Just as he decided how many and which refugees to take into the Vatican, we are left to decide how many and which we take in here, and I don't think we should take any in that have not been properly screened, and we shouldn't take any in that are unlikely to serve a good purpose here.
     
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    well if you think the sunshine blows out his ears so be it. but not me. im not about to sit out there and have some Priest tell me how to worship god and be a good Christian, then 2 hours later find him at Joe blows bar and grill drunk on his ass. can you say hypocrite?? and this child molestation scandal makes me wanna beat the crap out of someone. can you say pedophile??? how do they get away with that one??
    no church or religion is perfect and each worships god in they're own way but is it to much to ask practice what you preach??

    Inside the Vatican: pornography, drugs and money laundering – spin this Pope Francis

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    That is probably true but it's true for most clergy also. Look at Tammy Faye and her husband and Jimmy Swaggart.

    Talk about ripping people off big time. Anybody can get a preacher degree online, I could too.

    Then ask for donations and spend it on myself.
     
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    I am sure that the pope didn't choose two refugee families at random. It is far easier to screen two families than two hundred thousand, and it's a lot easier to keep track of a few people as opposed to hundreds of thousands. Maybe the United States should follow his example and take in two well screened refugee families, and then keep close track of them.
     
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  9. Gary Ridenour

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    he can have em all. Obama want's at least 10,000 a year here. young males mostly 18-24 year old. military serving age. documentation really makes no diff. ISIS and Al-Qaeda are much better now at forgery. in fact they have caught many of these killers trying to enter with these Syrian refugees
     
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  10. Mari North

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    Yes... I can't, @Gary Ridenour ... I really truly can't understand why the "we have to hug everyone and open the borders" people don't know this... or maybe don't process it. Of course we need to be kind to the needy. Of course we can't turn REAL requests down if someone wants to live here. But the mindset that has a lock-down at "let 'em in" without looking at the facts and the data of what exactly " 'em " is that they want to let in... is maddening.

    I could, however, go along with @Tom Jordan 's idea... two families. ;)
     
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  11. Gary Ridenour

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    there's is one born every minute
     
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    we have the same problem here we did in Nam. they all look alike just saying
     
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    Somehow... and I may be wrong, but it's my opinion, I think a lot of it has to do with the ridiculously foolish PC garbage that has gotten way out of hand. It's like we wouldn't DARE offend anyone, whether or not they'd rather slit our throats than look at us (eeeew, way graphic, Mari... sorry!) It's been surreal for the last decade or so. Nightmarish.

    I will NOT sway my head with my blinders on and sing Kumbaya with individuals who would be tickled pink to rid the world of my family. What the devil's it going to take for people to wake up? Don't answer that... we've already seen it and they forgot in a very short time.

    Uh... thanks for listening, @Gary Ridenour ... and you don't even know me :oops: :)
     
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    :):):)
     
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    I don't think it was really hard for the Pope to pick those Refugees since the Catholic Church sent "Missionaries" over there to "christianize" the Muslims, etc. So these are probably a couple of families that they ministered to and who has begun the process of becoming Catholics.
     
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