A Discussion On Leadership And Influence

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    Only a small part of this is about the Trump shooting and the possibility of human hacking. Most of the discussion is about the qualities of leadership, influencing people, and being influenced. This a a long video, which I know will put some of you off, but what I find is that I am sometimes introduced to some interesting stuff if I don't let the length of a video influence whether I'll even start watching it. Tell yourself that you'll watch fifteen minutes of it, or a half hour of it, and if it's interesting, you might watch more. Plus, this is the type of vidoe that you don't actually have to watch, for the most part; you can listen to it while doing something else.
     
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    I’m at the 35 min mark and thus far I’m discovering that some of the this was covered in a 3 week Leadership prep school that i was assigned to go through whilst I was in the Army.
    In the Army rendition, a full week was spent on the techniques and intricacies needed to build the “assumption” of superiority even without having the visible rank as part of that complex.
    Granted, that aspect was only touched upon in the video so far but I’m sure they’ll get more in-depth about that and other things as they go along.

    So far it is a worth while watch but I think that in order to absorb a lot of the content it “Should” be taken in small increments and in so saying, I’ll have to come back to it later whilst I am sharpening a couple of chisels.
     
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    Since Chase Hughes comes from a background of training the military, I'm not surprised.
     
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    Okay. Got through the “confidence’ segment and it was interesting to say the least.

    As I have explained on this forum before, I can speak or lecture in front of any number of people be it scores or a few without missing a beat but to put me in a situation where I am surrounded by people, I’m toast.
    Even going to the store, I really don’t feel as though I belong there and I’m constantly watching everyone and expecting a disapproving expression from someone. Such is the life of an introvert and my lack of comfort when I’m around people.

    Long and short, the definition Hughes gave for confidence is indeed something I never really thought of. Paraphrased, he said that confidence is the ability to walk into a room of people without the fear of being hurt socially.
    His story of the credit card was a fantastic example of the definition so yeah, I have a lot to mull over before I go further into the video.

    Thanks Ken. It’s a good study thus far.
     
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    When I first started teaching EMS, it was a bit scary, particularly given my history as an occasional stutterer. I soon conquered that to the point that even if I did stutter, which occurred once in a while, I barely noticed. However, standing on a stage in front of a large group was scarier, and, for me, it didn't help when the stage was lighted so that I couldn't even see the people in the audience.

    Interestingly, I found that when I was speaking to a large group, like at an EMS conference, in another part of the state, or in another state, it was actually easier because these people accepted me as an expert in whatever I was talking about, while those in the Rio Grande Valley, who knew me, had seen me screw up enough times that they knew that I didn't know everything. That demonstrated the theory that an expert is someone from at least fifty miles away.

    Oddly, I wasn't at all intimidated testifying as an expert witness in court, although I expected that I would be.
     
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    In the Army, it’s all about the uniform. Beyond the ranking chevrons, the uniform tells the whole history of the soldier e.g. conduct, weapons types and proficiency, combat history and merits achieved, unit, MOS etc.
    What I’m getting at is in the military, one’s authority is first displayed by the uniform.

    In civilian life, one has to display authority by one’s demeanor at first. e.g. I’ve seen people who walk into a room, look comfortable and like they could lead a major corporation but after speaking with them I find out they’re dumber than a box of rocks and visa-versa.
    Beyond being on stage or behind the pulpit, I’m the visa-versa guy. I walk into a room full of people, I don’t feel comfortable and so far as conveying some semblance of authority, I don’t think so.

    Anyway, I see some importance in the video in that I find myself rehashing some personal battles that I’ve been fighting for some time.
    Just getting some leads on how to feel like I belong wherever I am at (beyond the pulpit or classroom) would be a giant leap.
     
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    Break time at the 1:11 mark.

    Elon Musk is the perfect example of what they are talking about.
    Musk rarely, if ever answers a question without looking away from his questioner and taking huge pauses.
    I have thought in the past that his reasoning was to formulate the answer so as to prevent stuttering but there’s a big chance that my thinking was at least partially in error.

    The stat that Hughes gave about how much time we give ourselves to answer versus someone else is interesting. He said that we give ourselves 70% less time to answer a question than we give other people.
    Now, with that in mind, I thought of a comparison between Ramaswamy and Musk.
    Elon appears to be extremely relaxed and takes a lot of time whereas Vivek is always very quick and to think about it, Musk commands much more attention and seemingly more authoritarian than Ramaswamy does even though they are both heavy hitting leaders.
     
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    On the one hand, it's impressive that Ramaswamy can immediately deliver a good answer to a question, or a response to a comment, but on the other, it does make him appear perhaps too eager, which detracts from the leadership quality. Musk gives the impression that he doesn't care whether you agree with him or not.
     
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    On Musk, that air of not caring about the possibility of societal injury.
    Note: And furthered that air when Newson didn’t agree with Musk concerning AB 1955, Musk simply moved his companies to another state.

    To me, that’s not only emoting authority but proving it.
     
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