Multi-billionaire Donald Trump: 2016 Announcement

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  1. Avigail David

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    Bad politicians wanting a dip in the pool of corruption. They are on the loose. Creating more confusion. People feeling lost. Politicians are poor economists. They do not know anything.

    Good leaders, Trump says, should be smart leaders who know the trade of business and making more money for the people of America. He says he'd create jobs, make money for the country, get social security back in safe place-- in the safe hands for the people and veterans who have paid into it; and putting all sorts of lobbyists into shame. This, we gotta see and hear.

    Donald Trump, billion-dollars businessman announced that he'll be running for US presidency. Maybe he will be good for the people of America.
    http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/trump-american-dream-dead-i-will-bring-it-back
     
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    Actually, if he did (and could do) any of that; it would seem like he might make a better president that most of the others we have seen trying for the position thus far. If he runs as a Republican, he might have a chance to make it; but more likely is that he would just end up splitting the Republican vote; thus making Hillary our next Commander-in-chief.
    I think he is probably just grandstanding (for whatever reason); but who knows, he may be serious ?

    I am not so sure about his prospective running mate though; since his first choice is Oprah Winfrey. While she is fine as a TV sstar; I am just not sure how she would do as a vice-preasident. And suppose Donald got "out of control" of the shadow government, and they "neutralize" him. Then, we would have Oprah for a president, and I am not sure that would be good at all.

    Truthfully, I am not even sure if any of it matters.
    As Ken mentioned, regardless of which political party is in power; the agenda is the same, and continues to go on. Sometimes, I think the whole election process is kind of like the Roman citizens going to watch the Gladiators fight the lions. Exciting to watch, but doesn't have much to do with the reality of every day life.
     
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    I have to wonder what Trump's motive is for running now. He has made no secret in the past that he was a conservative Republican. Why didn't he run four years ago, he might have been a better alternative then Romney. But no he chooses now and I tend to think like others he is only over saturating the Republican ticket which is already satruated enough. Maybe he has his reasons, but I just find the timing odd.
     
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    Being a shrewd businessman, and a billions of dollars success, I think he sees and understands the wrong things happening in the American politics. As well, he identifies with the people of America. He says he doesn't need the people's money, he's got tons of it, he continued. He will even create jobs and make America "great again". Obama does not love your country and your people. What is there they've got to lose with Donald Trump and the people of America if we make our chances of becoming a great nation again? Doing nothing is not the option.
     
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    It's good publicity for Trump. He benefits by having his name in the news. Still, he's as good a choice as any of them, I'm afraid. Quite frankly, I think we'd do far better if we chose our president by lottery, giving the office to some random stranger. Certainly, that would be cheaper and we couldn't do worse than having to choose between John McCain and Barack Obama, Mitt Romney and Barack Obama, or Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton. I could go back further but I think you get the idea.
     
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    @Ken Anderson , yeah, I think you're right. It would be an intelligent thing to do.

     
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    I had heard his announcement on running for President, and I was Very Surprised and Impressed by what he was saying about what he wanted to accomplish as President. Will be keeping up with his campaigning. I think he will be a good debater too, if he makes it that far.
     
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    I believe he will overcomb all [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    At least it will keep him occupied doing something other than devastating yet more of Scotland with golf courses for the rich.
     
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    What do you think about Donald Trump? For awhile, I wondered if he wasn't just playing devil's advocate, and trying to stir things up, but now I'm not so sure about that. Do you think he is a serious candidate, and can he win an election? He certainly isn't afraid of controversy, which is why I really like him. I think the left fears him, because they already have the propaganda machine in full slaughter mode!
     
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    Actually, he seems to really care about helping America get back on its feet. While I am not sure whether we have actually passed the point of doing that or not; I would certainly like to see someone who at least tried to do that, and didn't think that the presidency was all about golfing.
    We do have another thread about Trump in this section, and maybe @Admin can combine the thread, or , we can just have two of them.

    http://www.seniorsonly.club/threads/multi-billionaire-donald-trump-2016-announcement.1114/
     
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    So far I have absolutely no idea which republican candidate I'm going to vote for, but as weird as it sounds I just might choose Trump. If he's serious about running, that is. I really don't like any of them anymore. Not one (republican or democrat) does what he says when he gets in. Well, regretfully, except for Obama who promised to "fundamentally change" America.

    My husband said something yesterday that I never thought I'd hear coming out of his mouth. He said he's not going to vote anymore because he no longer believes in the voting system. I don't believe in it, either. I haven't for a long time, but I don't think I could make myself quit voting because even though I don't have any faith in the system I can't quit hoping.
     
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    The RNC enacted rules in 2012 that gives the presumptive nominee control over all Republican delegates to the Republican National Convention. In other words, whoever the Republican National Committee and the media believe to be the frontrunner will have the right to replace any state delegates who might be pledged to another candidate, the intention being to ensure that the Republican nominee receives 100% of the vote during the convention. Assuming that the Democrats employ a similar tactic, your husband is right. Your primary vote is meaningless. If the RNC and the media are pointing to Jeb Bush as the presumptive nominee, he will be the nominee regardless of how the voters in your state vote. Last year, one-half of Maine's elected delegates to the Republican Convention were replaced with delegates who would agree to nominate Romney. There was a big fuss over it but the media barely touched on it. Fox reported that the convention "went off without a hitch," despite the fact that the Maine delegation, most of the Texas delegation, and delegates from other states protested loudly, marching around the inside of the convention hall, then taking it out into the streets.

    The only candidates who have a chance of being elected are the Republican and Democrat nominees, both of whom are selected, not elected, by the elite of these political parties. Even assuming that the general election results are honest (which I don't), we are left with a situation very much like the former Soviet Union. The people got to vote but they didn't get to select the candidates.
     
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    I am well aware that my husband is right as are you, but I will still vote even with the certainty within that there is absolutely nothing honest about the elections anymore. All you have to do to know who is going to win is watch the media to see who they promote. The voting process is obviously a total sham, yet I cannot let it go by without voting. I keep thinking that sooner or later the American people will get their country back even though I honestly don't see how that might come about as I don't even believe there are two parties anymore outside of the minds of the people.

    Wishful thinking keeps me going to the polls, I suppose.

    Inside, I doubt that the American flag will still be flying by the time I leave this world. With all that's going on now, all I know for certain is that God is still God and I take my rest in that.
     
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    Let me show the parallelism of Donald Trump with Manny Villar.

    Villar has his real estate empire. In the 2010 elections, he set aside 1 billion pesos (that's good enough for the preliminary campaign) for his political ambition. The tv has been airing his infomercials of different kinds. He was tops in the survey and a year before the elections, he was unbeatable... until the former president Cory Aquino died of cancer. The sympathy of the public poured for Cory's son Noynoy Aquino who eventually ran for the presidency and won it handily. And Villar? He landed 3rd behind the former president Erap Estrada.
     
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