Another High School Shooting

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  1. Gloria Mitchell

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    High school in Parkland Fl...check your news....
     
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    Yeah, Ive been watching since it happened. My hearts stops everytime I hear a school shooting and until I find that it's not in any of the schools my grandsons go to do I breathe a sigh of relief.

    After that I feel for the poor families that aren't so lucky. :(
     
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    Just heard that 15-16 dead!! When the story first broke it seemed like it was only a few.

    Sadly, a Valentine's Day massacre:(

    Edit: 17 dead according to the press conference
     
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    I know @Chrissy Cross ...just so devastating. I try not to be too bummed out...but how can a person not be ? There were several shootings also in our surrounding area...another dead police officer ...just buried one -an another to bury Friday..and now another.:(:(:(
     
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    These shootings are getting like plane crashes, another is inevitable, we're just glad that it doesn't affect us personally...and, as always, mental illness will be said to be the cause.
     
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    At least they got him alive which is rare, so hopefully he'll talk as to "why".

    He's an adult and Florida has the death penalty so maybe he'll cooperate for a life sentence....
     
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    He won't know 'Why' .... some people are natural born psychopaths, just evil ( imo) no accountability or remorse ... or maybe it was 'voices in my head told me" or maybe someone served him latte instead of flat white, who knows?
     
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    I heard about this while driving yesterday and then once home heard about 17 gone. This is just terrible. Those poor families and parents.

    Today I'm hearing DR Drew Pinsky who is now on KGO Newstalk San Francisco (and acting much less jerk like than I always thought him to be) stated that he believes this 19 year old has fetal alcohol syndrome just by looking at him. He is apparently adopted from Russia and many of these kids did have this condition. I further heard that they don't believe that the fact that this was Valentines Day is a coincidence. He had girlfriend issues, could be violent and harmed animals. So sickening in so many ways. I wish him to never see freedom and CNN is reporting he has confessed.
     
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    He may have been born with fetal alcohol syndrome but so are many many others....so I hope that's not considered in his defense.

    I see him as a pathetic kid, a loner, troubled and maybe the death of his mother in Nov. from complications from the flu pushed him over the edge.

    Plus the GF problem...he was losing too many people in his life...had no one left really.

    Also a gun nut as can be seen on all his social media accts.

    There's a lot of misinformation floating around....Ive seen someone say he was Muslim, a white supremacist and a registered democrat.

    The democrat one seems false as the birthdate and the spelling of his name are different. The are quite a few Nicholas Cruzs...a popular name.

    Although I'm pro gun to a point, I don't think 18 yr olds should be buying automatic weapons...although considered an adult, I don't think they're mature enough.
     
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    I feel so sad for the families of innocent victims in any murder etc ....but I often wonder about the utter confusion and effect it has on the families of the perpetrators ... how do they come to terms with the fact that one of their family could do such as this?
     
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    He was reported to the FBI as a possible shooter. I wonder if they could have done something to prevent this.
     
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    True...but in this case his real mother is dead, and his adopted parents are dead. No mention of a real father so probably never even knew him....nobody to really care.

    He does have a brother or half brother....:(
     
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    The FBI said they couldn't attribute that statement to Nikolas Cruz.

    there are a lot of nikolas Cruzs in the US.
     
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    There were 2 high school students arrested here to day with guns in their bsck packs..smh..
     
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    It goes on and on and very little can be done, if anything, about it. Extremely sad, but true. Wife and I think ALL military type assault weapons should be completely banned. We see and hear them at the Range we go to.

    Some lady yesterday, standing by the school and using someone's microphone, cried and yelled at President Trump to do something. The lady's daughter was one of the killed students. CNN's Brooke Baldwin was there broadcasting about the shooting, and after watching this lady on a tv, started crying and couldn't continue broadcasting for a few seconds. She apologized, but I could see just how much it affect her broadcast and interview with a Florida politician.

    So, so sad, but what really can be done. Gun violence goes way, way back to The Old West, thru the Prohibition Years in Chicago and mob crime to gangs, domestic violence and on and on. It's really, really terrible, but........
     
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    I just heard that it took him only 3 minutes to kill 17 and wound I don't know how many others.

    I'm starting to think differently about these automatic weapons....I think we can live without them.

    The argument that then only criminals will have them isn't really valid. Criminals don't shoot up schools...and in most cases they use hand guns in robberies and burglaries...even in individual murders.

    And no way should a teenager be able to buy an automatic weapon....that's ridiculous.
     
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    To us, we see absolutely no reason to sell or use military type assault rifles.
    But there is more to these school shootings, than type of weapon used. The school, his classmates and local law enforcement knew things about him. IOW, something terrible went wrong somewhere!
    The BIG question is, just what set him off to kill?
     
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    I totally agree the fetal alcohol syndrome should not be used as any kind of defense. I don't think this individual will or should ever see freedom again. I heard there had been many calls to the house in the last years but no details as to why yet.

    Clearly something wrong with him. People go through all kinds of adversity and may struggle but don't go and kill or harm others.

    I wonder if in the end every school is going to be completely fenced with armed entrances and exists. They were almost alluding to that on the news yesterday.
     
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    My heart ached as I heard of the wonderful, talented victims
    I was shocked to hear 'he' purchased guns aged 18, yet cannot drink alcohol till 21
    Surely that age should be raised to at least 21 - preferably 25
    Also, he had to sign a paper when purchasing, that he had no mental problem
    well he would say that wouldn't he, therefore should they have to provide medical note to confirm this ..............
     
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    Yes someone close to the shooter phoned the FBI hotline in January and gave a very detailed warning
    Unbelievably bad from the FBI !
     
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    The Aussies did away with assault weapons for civilians 1996 after having their own mass murder attack. There have been non since. Assault weapons should be strictly for military use.
    Age limits should be raised over all..
    to at least 21....military, drinking, smoking, perhaps driving also. State wide not just a few states. Would not solve the issue but could help.
     
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    OMG, this is awful! Again those poor parents and families. No surprise this is UK news. Seems the real news often is NOT in the U.S..
     
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    Although many call the Daily Mail similar to what our National Enquirer is...I find that they always get the stories first and are pretty accurate.

    I go to them first now.
     
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    Thanks for the tip @Chrissy Cross I think you could certainly be right. I had heard from people, long before the internet, who would listen to shortwave radio that they would hear things on the news of other countries that were not even mentioned in the U.S.. Very interesting.
     
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