Boy Scouts

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    I was a Cub Scout, and then a Boy Scout. My mother was a Cub Scout Den Mother and my father was a Boy Scout Leader. I enjoyed scouting quite a bit, although I began to lose interest in it at about the age of sixteen or so.

    I have a series of DVDs put out by the Boy Scouts of America in 2008-2011 called "Scouting for Adventure." Obviously, a promotional series, they may have been aired on television or on a cable channel because they are entitles, Season One, Season Two, Season Three, and Season Four.

    I have nearly finished the first season and one thing that strikes me is that it is very top heavy with women. Call me sexist but when I was in Boy Scouts, there were women leaders in the Cub Scouts but Boy Scout leaders and Boy Scout camp staff were nearly all men. Oh, there were some women involved, I know, because we did come across a troop every once in a while that had a female leader, and I don't have a problem with that.

    However, I am thinking that they must have carefully chosen the people who represented Scouting in this promotional series because it is very professionally done, and I don't get the feeling that they just used whoever happened to have been involved in something when the cameras came along.

    What strikes me as strange is that nearly every adult Scout leader or instructor portrayed in this series is a woman. Although girls have been allowed in the Boy Scouts for quite a few years now, very few actually participate, and I haven't noticed any of the Scouts portrayed in the series being a girl. But at least 90% of women portrayed as scout leaders, instructors or staff are women.

    It's been a while since I have been a Boy Scout, but I was a Boy Scout leader in 2008, when Season One of this series was published, and I have been an advisor for a Boy Scout Explorer Post, and there weren't very many women involved. Certainly, nowhere near 90% of the leadership were female, so I find it odd that the BSA decided to portray the Boy Scouts as being mostly led by women.
     
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    I was a Cub Scout den mother but then we moved and my son didn't want o continue.

    My nephew is 16 and still a Boy Scout ...they go on some pretty cool trips. Went hiking in Scotland last year.
     
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    I wish I had kept with it because I wasn't far from achieving Eagle.
     
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    I'm not sure where my nephew is but he's been one forever.

    Every time I visit NJ, he's preparing for something.
     
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    I just asked my sister, he's Star...whatever that means. :)
     
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    • Tenderfoot
    • Second Class
    • First Class
    • Star
    • Life
    • Eagle
    I was a Life Scout when I quit.
     
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    Why did you quit?

    I wish my son would have continued...I think it's a great organization for boys. Ive only seen a small portion of what my nephew does but he seems to enjoy it immensely.

    Even the week long camping trips when the temps were very cold in Sparta NJ! Once when I visited he insisted on making pancakes for everyone, a skill he must have just learned back then. :)

    I think they were just in Colorado for a week...his dad usually goes on these trips with him.

    While the boys did that, the girls went to their condo in Florida for a week...everyone was happy!
     
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    After my mother died, things got a little unorganized at our house. Plus, I had new friends, a different school, and a car that promised other options.
     
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    All good reasons.
     
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    My grandson became an Eagle Scout. His scout leaders were some of the finest men on earth. I did notice in his last few years that many fathers either didn't have time to be leaders or didn't want the responsibility. It is time consuming and a lot of responsibility. They are responsible for the care and safety of a group of sometimes rowdy boys. When they are camping or on trips to see various things , the parents are trusting their sons to them. My hat is off to the leaders, be they men or women.
     
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    They need a lot more of them now too. Whereas, fifty years ago, one scoutleader could take a troop of boys camping, they now have a formula as to how many adults there must be for the number of boys along and, because there have been some perverts involved, no adult leader can be alone with a scout at any time.
     
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    Didn't know Boy Scouts had women leaders nor that girls were permitted to join. My, my.
     
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    Actually, it looks like I was wrong about that. There have been lawsuits and I know that the leadership seemed to be moving in that direction several years back but, at this time, girls are not yet allowed to become Boy Scouts. The BSA has long had female scoutleaders, however.
     
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    Should be 'compulsory' for all children to be in the Scouts
    What a change we would see in behaviour - for the better !
     
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    Within our farming community, when I was a teen, the two big things were 4-H and FFA. I don't even think there was Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, Brownies or Girl Scouts........at least I never seen any uniforms. Most of my high school buddies, were like myself, in either or both 4-H or FFA. Unlike today, there weren't any girls in either. There was also a nice size county fair in Ft. Wayne where all of us showed livestock or other 4-H stuff.

    Whenever we go to our local fair, we always go thru the livestock barns and show areas. Not so big here, but in Colorado, fairs were big as well as lots of livestock, livestock equipment, shows and equestrian events.
     
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    The agricultural fairs are pretty big here in Maine.
     
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    I have to disagree with you there, @Patsy Faye . I think the reason Boy Scouts works so well is because the boys are there because they want to be. If they were forced to be there, they wouldn't like it and behavior would be a problem. There was one boy in my grandson's troop whose mother forced him to be there. He was a real problem. He finally dropped out.
     
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    Yea - I suppose that will happen, but better than 'Boot camp' :p
    Must work for the majority surely, they get to form friendships, everyone wanting to achieve their goals and all that
    Maybe bribing them would work :p

    @Shirley Martin
     
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    Once I was in high school, there was the feeling that being in Boy Scouts was kind of dorky, and that might have played a part in my not staying in to make Eagle. That would have been peer pressure because I still enjoyed the Boy Scout activities while I was involved.
     
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    The younger they start, the better
     
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    My youngest made it all the way to Eagle Scout and I watched how hard It was to be a Scout
    in High School. I wear this pin with pride on my suit along with my Retired USAF pin.

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    There is a program called 'Lone Scout' that allows a boy who might live on a farm or ranch
    outside of town still be a Scout without attending regular meetings in town.
    Saw it in action when I was a leader in Nebraska.
     
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    You have a right to be proud, @Tim Burr . Those boys work hard to earn those badges, they don't just hand them out for nothing.
     
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    I was a Boy Scout, achieved a first class rank. Later a adult scout leader. Those were good years.
     
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