Christopher Columbus

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  1. Gloria Mitchell

    Gloria Mitchell Well-Known Member
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    He was a devoted slave trader
    a cheepsake among many other things ..so why in the world is many peoole complaining about Robert E Lee and others ?
    If any of the history I have read about him is true, why do so many get...and federal employees at that...get the day off to honor another slave trader?
    Although some cities even in the US honor this holiday under a different name, seems very contradicting to honor one and yet refuse to even acknowledge others. Plus depending on who you believe he may not have really found the NewWorld..at least not on his own.
    Was never ever taught any one this un my school !
     
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    California doesn't honor Columbus Day. Kids have school, banks are open and there is mail
    delivery.
     
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  3. Shirley Martin

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    Much of what we have been taught in history is incorrect. Are there monuments to Columbus? If there are, let's protest until they are taken down.
     
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  4. Ken Anderson

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    It is wrong to hold historical figures to the standards of today. Although that makes it easy to demonize anyone, if it is applied across the board, we would have no choice but to burn every history book, monument museum, and historical artifact in the world. At around the same time that Christopher Columbus was embarking on his voyage, the Aztecs were making human sacrifices, and the indigenous people of North America were warring with one another, burning forests, and taking slaves. Yet we are replacing Columbus Day with Indigenous Peoples Day, and if we held everyone to the same standards that wouldn't make sense either. That was a brutal time, pretty much everywhere. Given that Christopher Columbus did not discover America, and never even set foot in North America, it doesn't make a lot of sense that we're celebrating him over Americus Vespucci, for whom America was named, but I'm sure that if we looked we'd find that he would be disqualified too, for being a sexist or perhaps for being cruel to animals, or something. I don't know that Christopher Columbus is deserving of having a holiday named for him, not because this 15th century man failed to live up to 21st century standards, but because he never set foot in any part of what would later become the United States or Canada.
     
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  5. Gloria Mitchell

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    Excatly......
     
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    Yes Christopher Columbus never set foot on US main land and also late to arrive in the new world. But the idea of tearing down statues and rewriting history is straight out of 1984. Yes we should know who founded the US and who has been lying to us for years. This politico correctness illness that everything has to think as a certain group is insanity. If they want to get so excited about things why do they not go after the Democrats the true slave owners the people who were the KKK and stop accusing everyone else of what they have been and still are doing to this day.
     
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    Christopher Columbus: Didn't know where he was going, when he got there, he didn't know where he was. When he got back, he didn't know where he'd been.

    Too bad he didn't have a woman to give him directions. :D
     
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    But he did have Martin Alonso to help him
     
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  9. Gloria Mitchell

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    Not here total shut down.
     
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  10. Ted Richards

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    Columbus certainly wasn't the first to discover the Americas. I believe the first were northeast Asians who wandered across Beringa, the land bridge exposed by low sea levels during the last ice age. I think they started migrating across about 30,000 years ago. I think those migrations continued with different groups following that route until about 12,000 years ago when sea level rise closed that land bridge. I believe most of those people entered the Americas by following the ice-free coastline southward and continued beach combing until they reached the tip of South America. Any evidence of their movements along the coast is now submerged by rising sea levels. Sea levels were as much as 400 feet lower during the ice age maximum.
     
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