Global Warming Or Just Normal Weather Cycles?

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  1. Beth Gallagher

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    Both climate change and magnetic pole reversal are real phenomena, but neither is likely caused by humans. According to the Beringia Museum in Whitehorse, Yukon Territory, the Earth has been warming for the past 15,000 years, basically since the glaciers retreated. There are variations in the rate of warming , but it has been a slow upward trend. Magnetic pole reversal occurs (if I remember correctly) about every 100,000 years according to core analysis. Magnetic reversal had little effect since we weren't aware of what was happening, we didn't have a power grid, electronics, and satellites, and even compasses were probably unknown. Now, however, with a weakening field prior to a possible magnetic pole shift, something like the Carrington Event of the 1860s would be catastrophic to the power grid and to many electronic devices. The Carrington Event burned down a few telegraph offices due induced current in the telegraph lines, but that was the only major impact. It would be much different now. Magnetic pole shift is not the Earth flipping on its axis--which has happened but is much, much more rare, but just the north magnetic pole becoming the south magnetic pole and vice versa. The power grid would go down should a solar event occur while the field was changing, and that would lead to most things plugged into it being fried. It wouldn't lead to extinctions, but many would die who are dependent on medications (think insulin) and refrigeration, A/C and central heating would likely be gone.
     
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    @Don Alaska
    All applicable negative results due to huge solar flares are documented, and I accept them. However, in all the searching I've done regarding these events, I've found no mention of the Earth's magnetic field being involved. So, as I stated previously, I am no doomsday believer in adversity resulting from shifting of Earth's magnetic field. Let 'er rip!
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    Yvonne Smith you must have got that from the global scientist proof web site
     
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    You of all people should understand this @Frank Sanoica

    https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/images/u33/Chapter_4.pdf
     
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    Made up science
    Corruption Of The US Temperature Record
     
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    I can't speak to everything this guy claims, but I do know that temperature measurements prior to the 1920s were altered in the 1970s supposedly to account "for more accurate temperature measurement" in the post-satellite years. I was unsure of data tampering until I was shocked to reality when I visited Fort Ross State Park in California and saw that black rocks had been piled beneath the weather instrument shelter in blatant violation of instrument placement protocols and obviously intended to increase temperature measurements at that site. If this kind of thing is going on at other temperature monitoring stations around the country and the world, it would increase the max temp and keep it warmer longer. I also know that in most modern weather stations since the 1970s, the temperature is no longer monitored using a max-min thermometer as pictured in the video. These were used in years earlier, and outside the U.S. probably still are, particularly in less-developed countries. We now use a constant measurement system and that picks up multiple peaks and valleys in temperature around a 24-hour period. Sometimes I think it is strictly electronic, sometimes on a constant graph that monitors multiple parameters simultaneously, and others that monitor on a graph that is changed daily. No data is lost in modern U.S. stations.
     
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    I like Ken and Frank's theories on Global Warming, but I don't like my own.

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    Similarly, people have released evidence of fraud on the part of the global warmist scientists, the difference being that the media reported the stories of the anti-tobacco whistleblowers, but are ignoring those who have reported on the fraud involved in the climate changeists.
     
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    Global warming is like all the other scams and frauds the government powers to be use. Take our word for what happened or happening you don't need to research because we did it for you. The science is settled so what ever you find is just conspiracy and not true. This is their line all the time and the people to lazy to question believe it. Sad that the powers to be are the people we trust for the truth when we know they have been lying for years.
     
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    There is a possibility that instead of me dying from Cancer, Heart Problems, ALZ etc., I could die from some climate catastrophe. I am not concerned for myself but am thinking about my decendants 20 or more years from now as heat,fires,floods,typhoons,hurricanes,earthquakes, volcano erruptions seem to be escalating.
     
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    It is depressing and escalating rapidly.
     
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