Imported Produce

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  1. Kitty Carmel

    Kitty Carmel Well-Known Member
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    This kind of ties into my previous posts about garlic from china and the misunderstood prune.

    I bought prunes and was about half way though the bag (not all at once!) when I looked and it said "Amazin Prunes from Argentina" I'm like what the...? I was pretty sure Yuba City, California is the prune capital here and I was right after checking google. I live in California and I'm eating prunes from Argentina.

    I bought another bag, same brand "Amazin Prunes from U.S.A." The flavor infused prunes were from Chile. Of coarse I'm really checking now but living in California, I just assumed all the prunes would be from the U.S.. Silly me.

    Then I was also thinking about out of season produce. I usually don't buy imported produce that CAN be grown here (tropical fruits being different of coarse) I won't buy out of season produce from South America for example like melons. I have no issues with these countries but I also think of the resources it takes to get these items here when I can have them locally in the summer. I don't have to have them in the winter also.

    Thinking further I was wondering where some countries might get their produce if they don't or can't grown their own due to climate. For example do Northern European countries get a lot of produce from Mediterranean countries?
     
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    I have noticed that before. I didn't pay attention when I was in California but, although citrus was a major crop in the Rio Grande Valley of Texas, and I had two orange trees in my yard, the citrus in our grocery stores were from California or Florida. I mentioned it to my brother, who lives part-time in Florida, and he said most of the fruit in the grocery store he shopped at was from California. We don't grow citrus in Maine of course, but northern Maine produces commercial potatoes, yet we have more potatoes from Idaho or Canada than we do from Maine in our stores.

    Come to think of it, we have been to Five Guys several times and, if you've ever been to a Five Guys, you'll notice that they have a sign telling you where the potatoes used in their French Fries came from, and I have yet to see any from Maine.
     
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    We don't have Five Guys out here in California I don't think. Is it a restaurant? I would think shipping what was grown closest would be cost effective. I have seen tomatoes at Trader Joe's from Canada but lately every tomato is from Mexico at Trader Joe's. I did find US hot house tomatoes at another grocery store.
     
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    I can clearly recall as a kid, that in our geographical area, Chicago, one did not see all kinds of produce available year-round. Sure, a lot was shipped from California, and possibly Arizona, but that, too was seasonal. For example, one could not buy fresh Strawberries in January. My Mother bought the fruits we enjoyed when they were displayed, late Summer into the Fall, but few fruits in Winter. I knew nothing then of geographic origins, never imagined fresh fruit was available in Winter in Mexico, as I'm sure it was, but little or none found it's way to Chicago. Vegetables fell into a similar situation. But, many were canned, and therefore available all the time.
     
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    Being an Island although we grow most of our own crops...wheat barley etc.. and we also have many farms where we can be supplied with beef and dairy...especially cheese... we do have to import a lot, such as Citrus fruits, because we simply don't have the climate to grow them here..

    Apples we grow...oranges and lemons we can't grow...and grapes not so much...


    We import Lamb and beef from New Zealand...well it's nice lamb but could it come from any further?..and why do we need it?>....we have millions of sheep in this country... in fact in Wales alone I believe there's more sheep than people...
    We grow enough Lettuces, and tomatoes...yet we import them from Spain... we are an Island but because of our stupid fishing laws which limit the amount of fish that can be caught we end up with imported fish from Vietnam... Vietnam for crying out loud???... and there's always a documentary or 2 secretly filming how the fish is covered in lice in dirty water...

    We get corned beef from argentina... why????

    I could go on...and on...and on.... but you get the picture...
     
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    Fresno has a Five Guys...it's a burger place @Kitty Carmel
     
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    Yes Frank, this is one of the things I was really getting at. It seems people become spoiled and think they have to have melons and strawberries all year round. I even see them served at the nursing home sometimes off season, much of which goes to waste. The energy that is needed to import this unnecessary food out of season just gets to me. They grown hot house strawberries here in California but all the berries don't look too good and I wouldn't buy them anyway when I can get baskets of fresh local ones at the farmers market in the summer.
     
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    @Holly Saunders
    Appreciated your post above. I am a great fan of roast lamb, having gotten accustomed to it at the Fremont Hotel in Las Vegas in the late '60s while vacationing. Never understood how our familial "meat & potatoes" culture as I gre up, did not include lamb! Yet, my Dad asking for rabbit now & then, my Mother would buy a big, frozen jackrabbit imported all the way from Australia, kept frozen! This was perhaps in the '50s, when the land down under had somehow become extensively over run with these big rabbits. One Aussie member corroborated that earlier in another forum.

    Personally, I love fish. The prevailing preference emerging over past decades for more seafood created whole new industries involving "Acqua-culture". A friend who ran a chemical supply house was promoting this in Japan in the '80s, selling algicides to Japanese pond-raisers of fish. Not long ago, there "seeped out" information that the enormous pond-raising industry in China was fraught with practices disgusting to Western consumers: pond-raised fish were raised on feed consisting largely of chicken droppings. As a natural "self-doubter", I wonder about all the claims splashed on seafood product as "Wild Caught", "Fresh Caught", "Alaskan", "Atlantic", etc. What are the REAL origins of the stuff being sold to us (only if we buy it)?
    Frank
     
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    You couldn't be more correct about the disgusting practices with regard to the imported fish from China Vietnam etc... and there's no reason apart from the cheap availability of it to supply to unsuspecting customers in the west. At least the individual customer has the ability to be savvy about what they're buying, however it's restaurant customers and fast food customers who have to trust they're getting fed something fresh and pure...and more often than not we/they are not.

    As for the Lamb , we're lucky here in the UK... we can have lamb any and every day of the week if we wish...it's just that if we choose to have home reared lamb , or veal, or for that matter beef.. we have to pay more... It never fails to befuddle me as to why lamb which is imported from the complete other side of the world can be so much cheaper than home grown . I can buy 4 Kangaroo steaks for less than I pay for one rump steak reared from cattle in this country...it's madness!!
     
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    I went to Trader Joe's today. Not one tomato that wasn't grown in Mexico. Not one. Nothing against our neighbor to the south but we can grow Tomatoes in California. Locally. I didn't want to stop at another store. No tomato for me this weekend.
     
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