Is Your Focus On Education Or Entertainment?

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  1. Yvonne Smith

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    Interestingly, I noticed that @Ken Anderson titled this whole subforum "Education and Entertainment". At first, it would seem like this is an unusual pairing of subjects; but when I really thought about it, I can see that they are directly asociated with each other.
    When we are young, we spend most of our time in the learning process..... How to walk, talk, and (eventually) tie our own shoes.
    Then comes school, and again, we are learning, although entertainment is also part of school, and also more of a part of our lives in general as we grow up.
    Once we get a job, or start a family, there are more things to learn for work; but also more opportunities for entertainment as adults, too.
    Now that we are seniors, many of us have a lot more leisure time on our hands, and are not as physically active, so we may spend more time watching televiion, reading a book, or some form of online entertainment.
    Some things can be either education or entertainment, and reading books is an excellent example of that. I read all the time because I want to learn something, but I also read novels just for entertainment purpose.
    What does everyone else find themself doing at this stage of life ?
     
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    @Yvonne Smith IOW, do I focus more on learning more than pursuing things entertaining to me? Learning has always BEEN entertaining, for me, and I guess that may be unusual. But, it helps explain how I can sit down and work with complex concepts that I have been away from for years, and still work with them effectively. For example, after having learned Calculus at age 20, I was called upon to teach it, to Seniors in High School Honors Math Class.

    I dug down deep into my memory, and the methods were still there. Just a lucky guy, I think. Frank
     
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    Most of what reading I do now is for reference purposes. When I watch TV, it's a mix.
     
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    I guess I spend most of my time just living my life since I retired, though it was for me a slow transition, because I have been self employed all my life and withdrew from work in stages.
    I feel through my time with my family and friends, travelling and on here I am learning all the time about people, which has always been my passion in life, especially the way we all interact with each other.

    With my various life changes I have had to learn new skills which I have enjoyed, but nowadays I don't seek to learn from my pursuits but find it just happens, I am learning something new every day, and hopefully remembering some of it.

    Thinking about it a bit more, I do find pure entertainment for it's own sake difficult nowadays, so reading novels, watching a movie or playing games, makes me restless, and feeling a need to do something that has a purpose rather than passing time. I guess that is why I gave up reading fiction and watching TV, which I used to do without thinking about it. At some level the work ethic in me must still be alive and kicking. :confused:
     
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    I do both. Mainly, I watch television shows and movies for entertainment, but I really enjoy watching some documentaries, as well, particularly Frontline. I like some reality shows, because I can learn things, but not necessarily the types of things I'd study in school, although I did study a lot of sociology and psychology, which often tie into the types of reality shows I enjoy, such as Boston EMS and Nightwatch. I sometimes watch DIY and/or crafting videos online, as well.

    As far as reading, I also do a mix of both. I will read some books for entertainment, mainly mysteries, but also read true crime, some of which can be pretty detailed and read somewhat like text books.
     
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    The idea of Entertainment and education is a interesting connection For example if you put rats in a maze and at the end of the maze there is some cheese you will see how fast the rats will run the maze if you stop putting in cheese they will stop running the maze.. Now they did the same experiment in a university using people with $20 at the end of the maze but surprise result when they stopped putting in the money people wanted to run the maze.
    When the schools use subjects that are entertaining the students learn faster. If the schools were fun they would need a lock on the door to keep the kids out when there is no school.
    My education is driven from curiosity I will go hours, days, or even months until I can find the answer.
     
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    That was entertaining as well as educational. Thanks!:D
     
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    I used to feel an obligation to finish every book that I started to read, but I no longer feel that. I still do generally complete books that I start, but I am picker about the books that I read. Exceptions are books that I get for the purpose of research, as it's not usually necessary for me to read the whole book in order to create a 5,000-character description.

    Books that I begin for my own purposes are a mixture of fiction and non-fiction. Most of the non-fiction is historical, largely memoirs that were written by people who never became known for their writing, having written a book about their experiences during the Civil War or their experiences growing up in one small town or another. The writing isn't always the best but the experiences are real and I enjoy that.

    That's what I read after I go to bed and before I go to sleep at night, or that I'll take with me to a restaurant or doctor's office.

    As far as movies go, I rarely sit down and watch a movie anymore. I watch movies and television series all day, pretty much every day, but they are playing while I am working, and then I decide what to watch based on what it I that I am working on that day.

    If I am simply adding sites to a directory, that doesn't require a lot of thought on my part so I can pay quite a bit of attention to whatever is on the television at the same time. But when I am doing research or writing a category description, I'll lose my place in anything complicated so I am more likely to binge-watch Gilligan's Island, or Leave it to Beaver, Little House on Prairie, or something that I have already seen at least a few times already anyhow. Otherwise, I have to keep restarting the movie. Crime or war documentaries work well, too.
     
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    My father would say why don't these young people go out and become millionaires while they are smarter than the rest of us.
     
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    I like learning to be entertaining - one teacher was very good at teaching us in an entertaining way
    Same with documentaries, they are sometimes done in an arty way, which is just distracting or dreary
     
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    I agree with you, @Patsy Faye , and I think that we can learn a lot better when the teacher is also entertaining anough to keep our attention riveted on the information, and not just daydreaming along because we are bored by the teacher droning along.
    One interesting phenomenon that I have been noticing more and more, especially on youtube, is the videos with nothing much more than a few snapshots and some computer generated voice intoning the information.
    Even when the topic is something that I am interested in learning about, it is hard for me to listen to it when it is presented with no voice inflection or enthusiasm at all. The exact same words and pictures, if spoken by a human, with some emphasis here and there, would make the video much easier to keep focused on.
     
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    I've noticed that too - hope its not the way forward ! :eek:
     
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    Well, since wife and I aren't the "intellectual" type, aka "book readers" or library buffs, it would have to be basically entertainment. Entertainment being……..going to a rodeo, water park, boating/fishing or heading to the range.
     
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    The whole education system needs to be over hauled we have good teachers yes and we have bad but cannot get rid of the bad because of tenure. Also politico correctness has grown in the education system destroying common sense. There are also this idea of affirmative action which means we give everyone equal standing and IQ is not important. The idea of achievement awards will be replaces participation awards.This sounds like a good idea but it puts an intelligent people at a disadvantage. The idea of no child left behind so the class moves at the speed of the dumbest child. Is this why home school children out preform regular school classes. There was an idea floated to take the best of the best teacher video tape their class and send it to all the schools and let the other teachers just monitor the class.Of course this scares the teachers union.
     
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  16. Holly Saunders

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    we do all of those, but I'm also an avid reader, always have been since I was a child. You don't have to be an intellectual to enjoy reading.
     
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    Holly, when were you ever at a rodeo? Do you still boat and fish? Last time you was at a gun range? Just wondering, because you don't talk about it at all, like I do. Rodeo...…..have no idea where that came from, but.

    Many people who enjoy reading can be called "intellectuals" or "bookworms". Got both words from the internet.
     
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  18. Holly Saunders

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    Cody I was sailing on Sunday...I was at my boat yesterday. I haven't been on the range for a year since my rotator cuff injury in both shoulders but that's improved so I'll be going again this summer ..we fish all the time we have a freshwater trout stream behind my house...

    I don't go to rodeo's because there's none here, but there are plenty of horses near my home, if I fancied riding which I don't due to a back issue..

    I don't feel the need to continually talk about everything I do because ,..I do so much including gardening, photography, volunteering at a local kennels.. travelling home and abroad.. and loads of other stuff!!
     
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    That’s fine Holly, but you said “I do all of those things...” which included going to rodeos. I wasn’t talking about riding a horse anymore, like I use to do (and rope), I was talking about watching rodeos. You misread what I meant.

    IOW, when you said “all”, which included rodeo in my reply, I was curious.

    People misread replies all the time. Chrissy misreads mine all the time and gets upset.
     
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    That's not true @Cody Fousnaugh ....EVERYTHING you say gets me upset. You just rub me the wrong way.....I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one either.

    Talking about the other forum now...

    Just my opinion...l
     
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    I didn't mis-read your comment Cody..I just thought you would have the intelligence to at least know there was no Rodeos' in London...lol, but let's be honest here...of the very few things you do as a means of entertainment, Rodeos' don't seem to be among them... at least I have access to horses all around me if I wanted...but you're just a an ex rodeo rider living in an apartment in a city with no horse....:D...and purlease..are you seriously telling us that all this talk of rodeos is just you ''watching them'' ?..any one of us could do that online...:rolleyes:
     
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    I know you're not asking me, but I feel like answering anyhow.

    As for rodeos, I was on the committee that created the Los Fresnos PRCA Rodeo when it was created by the Lions Club in Los Fresnos, and covered every day of either the 1st Aid station or EMS for that rodeo for five years, and then again a few years later when I was working part-time for Los Fresnos.

    For five years, we had the contract to provide EMS and 1st Aid for the Rio Grande Valley Livestock Show in Mercedes, Texas. We staffed the 1st Aid station there 24-hours a day for the annual 10-day run, which included a rodeo each day, which we provided ambulance coverage for.

    I have never attended a rodeo as a spectator, though, largely because we didn't have rodeos in the UP of Michigan when I was growing up, and they're not big here in Maine either. If I tried to attend a rodeo as a spectator in Texas, someone would get hurt and someone would put me to work, regardless of whether I was on duty or not.

    I have never enjoyed fishing, other than smelt fishing and ice fishing, but I once made boats for a living, while employed by Yar-Craft. The company had a few boats that we could check out whenever we wanted to go boating, plus I made myself a canoe and a kayak. I didn't so much enjoy boating with a motor, but have been canoeing and kayaking bunches of times.

    In my younger days, I could rock a kayak so that it turned upside down in a lake, then rock it while underwater so that it righted itself again, all without getting out of the kayak. I don't know about kayaking but canoeing isn't like riding a bike though. You do forget how. The last time I tried canoeing, I capsized it repeatedly, and that was without trying to. As a child, I have also spend a fair amount of time in rowboat. We called them punts in Boy Scouts, and my wife and I have been out on the lakes in Baxter State Park here in Maine on a rowboat a few times.

    The last time I was at a gun range was when I was qualifying to be a SWAT Medic in Texas. My shooting wasn't great but I did better than some of the cops who were qualifying. With a hundred acres of land, I don't need to go to a gun range.
     
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    What?

    I'd move.
     
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    Okay, on the other hand, is your wife not gainfully employed? If she is, whether or not she enjoys it is all too important because work is a continual learning experience almost as much as cracking the books.
    If one enjoys what they do, then the person may say that they also enjoy learning through the experience of bringing home the bacon ergo, a form of entertainment.

    Now, let’s flip that same coin again. Do you not read and respond to a couple of forums? Whether or not you actually enjoy it, you learn from it every time you read a post.
    If all you enjoy doing is roping fish and catching horses in a canoe, then why do the forum scene? Because you enjoy it! And like it or not........You Do learn! For instance, did you know that nearly 90% of boating deaths are because of the misuse and non use of safety gear? There, although you weren’t entertained, you learned something. AND, it also brought about an emotional response and probably one of displeasure.

    Learning isn’t necessarily a task to be frowned upon because it always invokes an emotional response. Whether one of joy, sadness, boredom or excitement, it’s a response and people call a positive response something akin to entertainment.

    Some people like myself, can sit and study history or math and get so wrapped up in it that we become part of history or mentally flip through the dictionary of math attempting to unravel that ever changing but constant language. It’s exciting!
    Others tend to need a little more color or something that they can relate to in order to make things real, and still others need to add music or even theater to it.
    Note: Whom among us didn’t learn the abc’s by singing a little song or didn’t learn that the Battle of New Orleans occurred in 1814 by hearing the song by Johnny Horton?

    It’s all a matter of personal perspective. Learning, like stubbing one’s toe on the bed leg, isn’t always free from pain even though we laugh at it later. Also, like the first time we experienced sex, isn’t always ecstatic beacuse we may cringe at the thought of it.
    Learning is always emotional, so its almost always entertaining if we look at it in the right light.

    Ya know, the light next to the bed ya should have had on or you wouldn’t have stubbed your toe and lost that special desire you had moments before.

    Perspective............
     
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    I'm on my toes...wonder if anyone on here...I know it's a long shot..but could it be possible that anyone..., might know the next flight to Wyoming... or Colorado.. :p
     
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