Looking For A New Car. Advice?

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  1. Steve North

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    I am in the market to buy a new car..
    At present I have a Chevrolet Sonic 2012 with only 58,000 kms on it.. I like the car very much but I find it too small.. I will be trading it in..
    I am looking at a mid size SUV..
    I have seen the Hyundai Tucson and like it for both size and luxury as well as price..
    I will be looking at the Kia Sportage this week..
    Both of these cars come with a 5 year warranty bumper to bumper as well as a 10 year warranty for the power train.. GM and Ford only have 3 years as a warranty.. They are more expensive, big time..
    This new car will most likely be the last car of my life..

    What do you know about those choices and how about some friendly advice as to my choice..
     
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    @Steve North
    I know less than very little about the imports, I'm ashamed to say. I do know my nephew dotes on "Consumer Reports" heavily. I personally have never held much faith in them.

    I will say, though, that GM relies heavily on foreign-made iron put together here; makes it look more "domestic", and therefore more attractive, reliable.

    Not "up" on prices, but can say this: several of Ford's offerings though high priced initially, are being told of accumulating very high trouble-free mileages on the forums I attend. I take it with a grain of salt, as my 2004 Explorer bought in March, 2010, used, with 92k on the clock, now has 162k, very few glitches encountered during 8 years of service, tires and brakes replaced, little else.
    Frank
     
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    @Steve North
    It's kind of hard to give advice since the choice of a car is like a fingerprint today, right for you only based on your own needs and aspirations. Before spending a pretty sum I'd read some of these direct comparisons listed below to get an overview. And I'd go on a test drive, of course. If the driving impression is bad/worse then the choice is made. The choice is also hard because the two cars are siblings differing only in some details but having a lot in common.

    What might tip the balance is something only you will be able to decide. I don't know if you are going for a diesel or a petrol engine nor do I know what is important to you in terms of options. For example, the Sportage has more driver assistance systems on board as standard. I'd check out what I want to have in the car and compare the different design and equipment lines of each. In the end your choice will be one of taste and detail maybe money as well.
    I know which one I'd take and why but that's completely irrelevant, I know.;)
    https://www.carsdirect.com/compare/hyundai-tucson-vs-kia-sportage
    http://www.worldautoevolution.com/kia-sportage-vs-hyundai-tucson-whats-difference/
    https://www.thecarconnection.com/car-compare-results/hyundai_tucson_2018-vs-kia_sportage_2018
    https://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/kia-sportage-vs-hyundai-tucson
     
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    Steve my daughter has had a Hyundai Tuscon from new 2011 or 2012 can't remember exactly.

    That car takes some battering up and down a very steep rocky mountain on a daily basis, and also a lot of hard road driving on ocean roads, with plenty of salt spray... it's been a superb car for her, ...and I've been a passenger in it many times, and it's wonderfully comfortable . Only trouble you might find is it's a little high off the ground to get in and out of... something as we age we have to be more aware of the difficulty of access...
     
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    My Chevrolet Sonic was made in South Korea, so why not buy a South Korean car..
    The fact the Sportage or the Tucson is high off the ground is exactly what we are looking for as my sub-compact is too low and hard to get out of.. other than that, its a great car with very low kilometers.. Our winters up here are something else as well and a higher car is good..
    The warranty is a good indication of how good the car is as well.. if they will give a 5 year bumper to bumper and then another 5 years on the power train, it must be a reliable car.. The local cars all have 3 years only which is what my Chevrolet had.. I had a problem last year with the shifter button and they couldn't find a part for it for several weeks.. Finally when it arrived, it cost me several hundreds of dollars for the replacement of that button, while if it were a South Korean car, it would be under warranty with all the parts available at all times..
    No diesel up here.. Not practical at all.. Petrol (gas) only..
    I'm looking at a new car and not a used one.. Up here the majority of the used ones have pretty well had it.. The very good ones command a high price which it doesn't pay to buy as a new one is almost the same price..
     
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    I don't think I'll be buying any more new cars unless I win the lottery and, even then, I'd probably buy a classic rather than a new car. If I were going to buy a new car though, it would probably be a Chrysler. They seem to last a long time, and without a lot of repairs.
     
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    Ken.. You are probably not wrong except the Chrysler SUV equipped like the Kia is about $12,000 more than the Kia.. The Chrysler has a 3 year warranty while the Kia has a 5 year, 1000,000kms warranty bumper to bumper and another 5 years, 200,000kms on the power train..
     
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    We've had to have a vehicle powerful enough to pull a boat. Our 2005 Dodge Durango SLT does a great job of that, but does have 153,000 miles on it. We've also put money into it for repairs and new tires.

    We could never have a small compact car. I'm too tall. As it is, I have to push my seat in the Durango all the way back to be comfortable.
     
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    Edmon's.com will have reviews and more on both those cars @Steve North. I'm prejudiced because this is my second Kia and my first I bought used in 1991 and it lasted until the year before last without many problems during the years I had it. Now we are enjoying our 2015 Kia Soul and in August it will be two years since we bought it and for us it is just fine.
     
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    After her husband passed away, Ina purchased a Kia Sportage brand new, and she really enjoyed that vehicle. She drove it all the way out here to Alabama from Texas when she and Izzy came out to visit me, and she said she really enjoyed driving it.
    She did have some kind of a problem when something from the shifting area caught on fire, but the company fixed it for her, what ever it was, and she didn’t have any other problems that I know of.
    I had an older Kia Sportage, one of the little ones that looks like a Tracker, and I really liked it. the only reason that i don’t still have it is because we moved somewhere that Bobby needed to haul lumber and other materials to work on the house we moved to, and the Sportage just wasn’t large enough to do that; so I traded it for a minivan.
     
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    This truck was our recent choice. Ford Stx..we like trucks...is tricky getting into at times. I keep the blue Ford Focus for my driving around town. Great car but might be too small for you @Steve North
     

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    i have a 2001 kia sportage suv --i have been driving it for 17 years--i really like it
     
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    Today (Tuesday) I'm off to see the Kia Sportage for a test run and an appraisal on my car to see what the difference to trade will cost me..
    I have had only positive feed-backs about the Kia.. Nobody has a bad word to say about it..
     
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    I went to see the Kia dealer and they had a 2017 Sportage, the middle model, all wheel drive, and very loaded with options with only 21,000kms on it.. That is roughly 12,000 miles and it still had 4 years left on the warranty..
    I tried very hard to swing a deal but they wouldn't budge from their price.. We are $3500 apart.. The car is like a charcoal blue in colour with black inside..
    What I plan on doing is waiting till tomorrow and going up $1,000 to see if they will come to a compromise.. If not, well, I will have to pass on it and keep on looking..
    My wife would like the car, but also agrees with me that we should keep on looking.. its not as if we are without a good car now except it is a bit too small..
    Naturally I will keep you posted...
    Am I being stubborn for the little difference in price ??????
    Should I go ahead and get this rather good car ???
     
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    Have you done some online price-comparisons ?
    You should be able to look at some ads for this year of vehicle that are for sale and see what the price for that style 2017 Sportage is running, and then you will have a better idea if they are asking a reasonable price for the one you looked at.
    There are also websites that do comparisons of performance and reliability, as well as suggesting the price range for each vehicle.
    If you can see that this dealer is way overpriced, then you also have ammunition for when you go back to talk with him about lowering the asking price.
    Here is the Kelly Bluebook website, and this should give you a good place to start price-checking; but I think that it is also good to look at some of the actual sales websites, and even places like craigslist.

    https://www.kbb.com/kia/sportage/2017/
     
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    It depends on what the Blue Book value on that car is Steve? $3500 difference is not a small difference to me and I do believe they can either come down on the price or give you more for your trade in, etc.

    I can tell by your post that both you and your wife really like that car and want it...the Sales person can probably tell this too so that's probably why they are holding firm on the price. Playing the "buy a car" game is often not very much fun because the Sales person wants to make the most off the deal in many cases, whereas it is always better if both customer and sales person feel the came out a winner in buying and selling a car.

    With a difference of $3500 I certainly feel there is room to give you a better deal...but if you feel that car is worth the difference and are willing to pay it then go for it. I would try to do get them to bring that difference down some and that will probably involve some back and forth volleys, etc. If the Blue Book Value is near the price they are asking then you have less leeway in bargaining.
     
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    BOTTOM LINE
    He came down $2000 and I came up $1500 and I bought the car..
    2017 Kia Sportage with 12,000 miles (it was a one year lease) AWD, heated seats, back-up camera, and the balance of warranty till July 2022 which is 5 years and it is a 100% warranty from bumper to bumper excluding wear of tires and brake linings..
    It is a dark grey/blue with a black interior..
     
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    Congratulations @Steve North I hope you have many happy years with your Kia just like we have had. :)
     
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    Hyundai and Kia are both products of South Korea.

    I would trust them both to be reliable and well-made.

    I have owned 27 automobiles, and have found the 7 Japanese models I've owned to be the most trouble-free. (Toyota, Mazda, Honda, Hyundai, Mitsubishi.)

    My present Mazda 3 (6-1/2 years old, 22,000 miles) was built in Hiroshima, and I cannot detect any residual radioactivity from the event which occurred there 73 years ago.

    Hal
     
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    Mazda was bought by Ford Motor Co. at least 30 years ago.
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