Memories Fiction

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  1. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Supreme Member
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    I like a lot of my age remember a Disney Documentary about lemmings jumping to their death and never challenged its truth fullness as it was a Documentary. How a whole generation can be fooled.
    Lemmings Don't Jump Off Cliffs -
     
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    OMG they were PUSHED..!!!:eek:
     
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    They were pushed or thrown over the cliff to create a movie that mislead the public into thinking it was a natural phenomenon. It has now moved into politics....
     
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    Jeez...it's just horrible to contemplate... :eek:
     
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    @Holly Saunders

    Suicide leaps were committed on the Island of Saipan during WW-II. These were, of course, knowing, thinking human beings.

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    "Suicide Cliff is 820 feet above sea level with most of that being a vertical drop to the rocks just behind the Last Command Post. It provides cool breezes and breathtaking views of the ocean and the hills of Northern Saipan. Suicide Cliff has a similar history as Banzai Cliff. The name came from the mass suicides of Japanese civilians at the end of the Battle of Saipan. Rather than surrender, Japanese families lined up on the cliff's edge from youngest to oldest. Each in turn gave the one in front a push."

    See: http://saipanpictures.blogspot.com/2008/07/suicide-cliff.html
     
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    Just read your link Frank...quote...

    . The civilians on the island, many had never seen an American, were told by the Japanese military if they were invaded, the Americans would rape, torture and kill every man, woman and child taken. Even stories of cannibalism were embedded into them. Rather than allow their families to suffer that fate, they did what many people would do, they chose to die on their own terms and spare themselves and their families the grizzly fates the Americans were fabled to bring on them. They didn't know when the Americans did arrive, the people that were rounded up were sheltered, fed and received medical care.


    That's so sad... pity it wasn't the Japanese army who took the suicide route..
     
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    @Frank Sanoica I think the same thing occurred on Okinawa. The Japanese military (most of it anyway) believed we would behave toward them in the same manner as they would have treated us had they been victorious, with rape, pillage, and murder as they did when they invaded Korea and China. Americans, although we had a short stint of imperialism in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, have generally behaved as no conquerors in the history of the world; benevolence to the conquered. After the U.S. was established and going, George III allegedly said, "George Washington doesn't know how to be king. They will soon want me back.". When told by his minister that Washington had stepped down and returned to private life of his own accord, he supposedly is quoted as saying, "If he did that, he is the greatest man in the world."
     
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