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  1. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Veteran Member
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    If it does not make you mad you not paying attention.
    Why You NEVER Wanna Meet THESE Lawless Cops or Their K9s!
     
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  2. Chrissy Cross

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    I only watched one minute of this @Martin Alonzo . I know there are some bad cops but I'm pretty pro law enforcement and think most are doing a great job or the best they can under circumstances.

    They get shot at every day and risk their lives...don't think they deserve the bad rap they are getting.
     
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  3. Martin Alonzo

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    Yes I agree with you Chrissy but we need to hold them to the same standards as everyone else
     
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  4. Chrissy Cross

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    Yes, I agree.
     
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    I'm very, and I do mean VERY, pro-law enforcement. Thing is, and this has been proven, a lot of video that is taken was started after the suspect did something FIRST. Spit at an officer, kick an officer, use all kinds of foul language at an officer, There area all kinds of things an officer has to try and handle while trying to make an arrest or even trying to get information. Even with the training law enforcement gets, a human can only take so much. They wear the badge! Sometimes an officer can "take things too far", but many times that is because what the suspect is doing, or tried to do, to the officer. When people are throwing glass bottles and/or bricks at officers, officers have to react in order not to be seriously hurt.

    Bottom Line: When a law enforcement officer gives a person an order, there is only one thing to do.........OBEY. Unfortunately, there are many in society that hate taking orders from anyone, especially a law enforcement officer. These people will do anything to get an officer in trouble.
     
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    I agree 100% with you on this one, Cody.
     
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    That's why, as extreme as it is and should not be necessary under normal circumstances, I'm glad police in this area are now wearing cameras. Suspects no longer have the option of getting away with lying.
     
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  8. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Thanks so much!!
     
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    You're right, @Cody Fousnaugh. Even when they have the video, the media seldom plays the part that provoked whatever actions were taken.
     
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  10. Kalvin Mitnic

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    Higher I think since they are trained and professionals yet some act as if there's one choice, shoot attack.

    I ask the question. When faced by a possible threat what would an unarmed citizen do. If they can, they should keep backing away until the threat can be neutralized OR, there is no choice but to shoot. An law enforcement officer that acts as if we're still in the wild west is just wrong.
     
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    Let's then choose to support the police when their actions CAN BE reasonable, but condemn those actions when unsupportable,knee jerk and unprofessional. A potential threat is just that and should be handled professionally and not as a wannabe gunslinger.
     
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  12. Janice Martin

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    One case was before the cameras, but your viewpoint is accurate in terms of how some use it as propaganda- was checking to see if there were any updates, and splattered around from YouTube to anti-cop sites I found 'Police shoot unarmed man!' Left out were facts such as the individual was bombed on G-d-knows-what, and rushing the police car. Officer acted appropriately according to the threat.
     
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  13. Cody Fousnaugh

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    Ok, let's look at this, a suspect isn't unarmed when they use their body as a weapon. Or, how about when a vehicle is used as a weapon?

    A citizen has to actually see, first hand, why an officer had to use lethal force. Even a body camera may not catch the entire situation and the officer is blamed and shouldn't be.

    I really wonder how many of us would act if we were officers and encountered a person who wouldn't listen to your commands. If the person reached for some thing (unknown to you) in their pocket? Just allow the person pull out whatever, which could be a gun or knife to try to injure or kill you with.

    Just think about this.
     
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    That's what I meant when I said officer acted appropriately- should not have had to go 'Oh, please wait a minute and show me if you have a weapon.'
     
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    As I see extreme cases the law enforcement too often shoots
    A) because he can
    B) because he has a gun
    C) without considering or using all options first.
    No one expects an officer to allow imminent and probable threat of injury, but officers are trained to handle situations if they can be deescalated. Too often they shoot within seconds of attending or without justification as in this referenced case. (and others)
    Of course we side with the police, but trained professionals need to have judgement not just a weapon.


    Re; police protocol in situations
    http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/12/how_police_are_trained_to_deal.html


     
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