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Discussion in 'Comments on Forum' started by Frank Sanoica, Jan 7, 2019.
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Hello, I'm new here.
I've read several posts over the last few days, but haven't read anything that might be tied to this thread.
Some questions are definitely asked to provoke and to influence opinion. The media does this often and well.
I think there should always be accountability when you are stating something as fact, if you are claiming something happened, or is happening, something that would definitely be a news story. Not so long ago, you could compare different sources to form your opinion.
Welcome to the Forum @Emma Smith
Welcome, @Emma Smith ! And, thank you for the insightful response.
Welcome @Emma Smith
Not anymore then? What has changed, I wondered?
On the story about the cruise ship turning around, links below:
CBS reported 277 sick passengers. They didn't correct this total.
CNN and NBC reported 475 total sick (the number went up a day or two later, from 277)
None of the 3 networks mentioned how many total passengers were on board. It seems like something that would have been included.
All passengers were effected by the shortened cruise and turning back earlier than planned.
If only the CBS site was checked, which I thought was a top reliable site, it reported almost 200 people less than the other sources.
"Reliability" of our national media? Perhaps they were too busily slamming President Trump to pay close attention to real, important news.
The media quit reporting the news around 2015 when they went into full-time campaign mode, and they still haven't quit. Unless it furthers a leftist Democrat agenda, they're not interested and they can't imagine why you would be.
As for this example, my criticism tends to be more lenient. There may be better examples than this one to prove a point. Two of the links you posted seem to be identical. I think I found the third source as linked here:
First of all, there still are different sources that can be used to inform oneself. The sources are unanimous in reporting the key fact that a cruise ship had to return due to a virus infection of passengers. What they differ on is the exact number of people affected at a given time. I'd think this is tolerable because the illness is "very contagious" as is said and as we know. I'd take into account that the three reports had to cope with the dynamics of such a virulent illness leading to swiftly changing numbers of those infected.
a) CBS, Fri, Jan 11; 08:09 AM
I agree with what you said about CBS. The number of sick people should have been qualified, e.g. by using "initially" or something which indicates a rising trend. CNN and NBC did that which was also possible because their reports appeared 16 hours later. CBS' earlier account seems to have solely relied on Royal Caribbean's press release issued on Thursday (11) which talked about about 277 people initially affected.
b) CNN mentioned the passenger capacity of the ship (8,000) without saying precisely whether the ship was full. Yet at least they gave a rough number of people affected: "The Oasis of the Seas is one of newest ships in the Royal Caribbean fleet and holds more than 8,000 people; about 3% of people aboard the ship fell ill."
Soooo, they were not really all in the "same boat"?
Thomas Stearn, thank you for supplying the correct CBS link.
Hi, @Emma Smith ! Welcome!
Thanks for the welcomes Frank Sanoica, Thomas Stearn and Shirley Martin.
This is so true, and I can't figure how we'll ever return to factual news reporting.