Was George Floyd An Innocent Victim?

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  1. Susan Paynter

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    "Watch this entire video."

    Wow very impressive facts, but why were these facts not put on the table when Floyd's settlement was negotiated. 27M. This money or part of it could have been used to better the under prevelidged or towards programs that would have benefited all those who went on the streets rioting because they had nothing else to do.
    Although statistics proves that rehabilitation in most cases does not work, the money could have been used in a more beneficial way.
     
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    Reported that there was a BLM activist on the Jury...so asking for a new trial...interesting
     
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    Since there are far more White people, than Blacks, killed by police every year, do you worry that Whites are targeted because of their appearance?
     
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    I think you two should broaden your research somewhat.
    Whites do commit more crimes in the U.S. than blacks by percentage.
    Now, if those tallies would only include violent crimes such as rape, armed robbery, assault, murder etc then the demographics might reveal a truer picture especially if it is listed state by state.
    Note: As an example, Illinois and Georgia have a much heavier population of blacks than say, Nevada and Arizona.
    Of course, I have looked them up only about a year ago and the numbers are all over the place depending on which agency you consult.

    Now, the other bit of research is to find out the reasoning behind each death by cop and that takes a lot more work than just paging through Google.
    Were the victims armed, did they violently resist arrest, were there drugs involved, was the victim known to be armed and dangerous and a myriad of other questions need to be asked before an across the board statement is made.
     
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    You need to broaden YOUR research quite a bit. Blacks make up roughly 14 percent of our population, but based on various reports, they commit roughly 44% of the crime in the U.S. That means they commit roughly 3 1/2 % of the crime for each 1% of their population. The other 86% of the population commit the other 56% of the crime. That means that the other 86% of the population commits roughly 7 tenths of 1% percent of the crime, for each 1% of their population. This would indicate that blacks commit over 4 times as much crime, for each 1% of their population. Also, keep in mind that the other 86% of our population are not all White.
     
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  8. Jim Brown

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    Let's look at the deaths by police officer situation. These people getting killed by police officers, aren't exactly upstanding citizens on their way to church when they were killed, regardless of their skin color. When someone is killed by an officer, it is considered reason to justify rioting, looting, and even killing innocent people. Lets now look at the Covid19 vaccines. Several people have died so far this year from the side effects of the vaccines. All of those deaths, of innocent people, are considered acceptable deaths. No riots, looting or killing anyone for those deaths. Why is it acceptable for vaccine companies to kill a certain percentage of innocent people, but if police officers, that are dealing with the criminal element in our population are forced to do so, rioting, looting and sometimes, even killing, are acceptable?
     
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    Saw this morning where the three other officers that were at the George Floyd incident, are being charged. This isn't about justice, it's about revenge.
     
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    Anyone connecting race and George Floyd together should read about the persons behavior and his complete police record. The guy was a total POS, not because of his race or color but because of his perverted behavior and criminal mind. He was making porn movies, passing counterfeit bills, and a whole list of other past and present offenses. He couldn't breathe because he choked to death on all that crack he swallowed hoping he wouldn't be sent back to prison. Watch the entire video of his arrest and resist and then still feel sorrow for the thug he was. Today we live in a society where good is evil and bad rules. I feel no sorrow for someone like that person. I don't hate him but I do hate the people that used the story and him to make a profit. He started resisting arrest at the moment he was confronted and never stopped until he stopped breathing. That was longer than the time an officer had a knee on his throat. What was the officer supposed to do, allow him to beat the hell out of him or run or go for his gun. Honestly all the people crying about these things should have the job for about a week to get a good taste of thug life. I wouldn't do it for any amount of money.
     
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    It does not matter one tiny bit what George Floyd was guilty of. Cops are sworn to uphold the law, and that doesn't include killing people un-necessarily.
    There were plenty of cops around and they had him on the ground. Floyd was handcuff and lying on his face flat down. Yet Derek Chauvin pressed his knee into Floyds nack for 9 MINUTES. All the cops had to do was toss him in the back of the patrol car. Chauvin murdered George Floyd. Pure and simple. No if ands or buts about it.
     
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    I agree; he was murdered. However I do not agree with all the adulation and hero-worship bestowed on Mr. Floyd. He was a criminal and never did a single thing worthy of being admired or made a martyr.
     
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    I certainly agree that while Floyd was alive, he was criminal and not worthy of any praise.
    However, in being murdered he became a victim of police brutality and hence a symbol of what police in America routinely do.
     
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    Plenty of people are victims but don't have statues built in their honor. Odd that you'd think Floyd deserves adulation but the Confederate soldiers are some kind of scum. He did not deserve to be murdered but he also did not deserve statues in his honor.
     
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    Beth, I do NOT think that Mr. Floyd deserves adulation. I merely said that he is a symbol of police brutality.
     
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