Why We (united States) Are A Republic, And Not A Democracy

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  1. Ken Anderson

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    -- Intellectual Takeout
     
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    You might want to be extremely careful about just posting only a title and a link, and not adding some of your own words along with it.
    Our forum administrator gets really “grumbly” when people do that.......
     
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    In answer to Dr. Williams' final question, I think it is ignorance for the most part in the public view, but, of course, lawyers (like Hillary) know better but choose to profit by the ignorance of the masses. 'In Federalist Paper No. 10, James Madison wanted to prevent rule by majority faction, saying, “Measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority.”' If we still studied government in schools, more people would know that the U.S. is not, never has been, and never was intended to be a democracy. The structure of our government was deliberately constructed to avoid Majority Rule, since that negates the Minority. Originally, states like Delaware and Connecticut did not want to be ruled by New York, Pennsylvania, and Virginia, the colonial equivalent of California, New York and Texas. All branches were designed to be different and to be somewhat opposed to each other to protect their own interests. The Supreme Court was intended to be the least of the branches, and was supposed to essentially be a mediator. It originally didn't even have its own building. Congress was to make laws. Article I, section 1, states "All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives." There was no allowance for EPA, Dept of Energy, etc. The Executive branch was to acquire people to fulfill the will of Congress. Now, however, due to the "reforms" of Congress, it has given most of its power to the Executive Branch, which is now the principle legislative body also. The Executive now makes the "laws" (called regulations), tries violators (e.g., Tax Courts under the IRS), and often sentences violators based on their own interpretation of the laws (e.g., EPA). Both Congress and the courts have been removed form the process of government in most cases. The Supreme Court removed itself from the process through the "Chevron Decision" in 1984. Despite what the media would make you think, the real target of reform in the Judicial system is not Roe v. Wade, but the Chevron Deference. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/chevron_deference

    Anyway, we were never supposed to be a democracy. That was propaganda spread by the Progressive Movement, and, unfortunately, believed by those who have not been educated or sought the education on their own.
     
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    Exactly. Members of Congress were expected to strive to advance the interests of their respective states, not their political party or some global agenda, and the Supreme Court was never intended to be the last word on anything having to do with the law, and certainly individual US judges were not expected to have the right to overrule the Administrative branch. The role of the Supreme Court was to mediate, not rule. The individual states were sovereign, and the Bill of Rights was intended to limit the power of the federal government, not to enhance it.
     
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    It has often been said or noted or published that it is money, corporations, that run the countries - usa and others.
    Whatever it is, there seems to be no remedy for government that can possibly work within nor to reform government in our lifetime .
     
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    IMO we are lawless and have been for a while now. It looks like our leaders break more laws than our prisoners. Including murder on mass in their illegal wars.
    They ignore our constitution and laws.
     
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