A Goal Aimed At Death

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  1. Frank Sanoica

    Frank Sanoica Supreme Member
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    @Bobby Cole " In the middle of nowhere is always somewhere and somewhere there is someone who will not want someone else's body decaying on their property. "

    It sounds as though you have never driven those stretches of Mohave Desert where one can encounter nothing and no one for a hundred or more miles......I actually know of several places remote by several hundred. Problem is, I might expire while attempting to get there!
     
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    Spreading of "cremains" is likely illegal in many places, as would be the distributing of any kind of burned refuse.....err......poor choice of word, but the idea fits. In International Waters, maybe......

    My Dad's parents, both cremated, were interred in the Woodlawn Cemetery Mausoleum in Forest Park, Illinois. I saw my Grandpa's spot after he died, when I was 9. Many years later, my wife and I visited my high school buddy Charlie, in Chicago, and we stopped at the Mausoleum.

    We could not find my Grandparent's spot. Perpetual Care carries a price, I guess.

    Frank
     
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    My grandparents are in a drawer in a mausoleum bldg in Rosehill Cemetery in Chicago. Place is so big, took forever to find them once when I visited.
     
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    No, not the Mohave but I have traveled the Sonoran and Ajo and made many a camping trip around Scotties Castle, Furnace Creek and Death Valley.

    If you do decide to make the journey @Frank Sanoica, do not, I repeat do not take a deck of cards and try to play
    Solitaire. You could be in the middle of the desert or on a lonely island and someone will suddenly be there to show you a play that you have missed.
     
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    In older times, babies were kept in a drawer of a dresser to sub for a bassinet. Maybe that's where the saying comes in, "Live by the drawer, die by the drawer".
     
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    @Chrissy Page Know the feeling. My folks took me to the "Bohemian National Cemetery" once to view my Mother's Dad's grave, and we never found it! Given today's extreme P.C. attitudes and usage of the word "bohemian", here's proof, it really exists!

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    Entrance to Bohemian National Cemetery

    "Bohemian National Cemetery (Czech: Český národní hřbitov) is a cemetery at 5255 North Pulaski Road on the north side of Chicago, Illinois."
    See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_National_Cemetery_(Chicago,_Illinois)
     
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    @Joe Riley I seem to remember hearing that direct burial of a human body is illegal in many places, if it is not entombed within a concrete "vault" The vault is typically larger than the casket by a sufficient amount to allow easy lowering of the casket into the vault, which is pre-buried with the hole above left open, a concrete lid is then placed over the open vault. I have seen these vaults in the past.

    In highly densely populated places, cemetery space is so limited and costly, that typically caskets are buried in stacked fashion, one atop another. In think I read Germany does this.

    Heck, even dying has become an obstacle to living! :(
    Frank
     
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    I would not care what they do with the piece of decaying meat that I once occupied. They could throw it over the back fence if that were acceptable to others. I don't believe in all the boo-hooing, crying and carrying on that goes along with funerals and wakes. And I sure don't want people looking at a poor representation of what use to be me. For social acceptance I will be cremated after that I don't care what they do with what's left. I no longer have any affiliation to what remains. And I have told every one that may have an interest I plan on staying here after death and haunting all. Seriously.
     
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    @Chrissy Page Add to that the fact that none of us interred will know, or care, I guess, if anyone visits our gravesite, decorates it, or otherwise mourns over our loss. Or, is it their loss? Nah, we're dead, the losers, they remain alive, the winners! Hurrah for them, then!
     
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    We have a funeral plan that has a cremation part and burial at Mililani graveyard. We got a little booklet to pay by time like buying a car, so it's all paid for now. I prefer a burial at a niche in our church, but we are going to be buried at a cemetery. I just get worried that after we are dead that something might happen to the cemetery. I'm hoping that people will keep the cemetery a cemetery.
     
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    I am not very concerned with what happens to my body after I die. I suppose I'd like to be buried just in case the the people who believe that a body is required for resurrection are right, but I doubt that they are, so that's not a major concern of mine. Maybe if I had remained in my hometown, I would have learned more appreciation for visiting grave sites and memorials, but I've never done that. We'll be visiting our daughter's grave in Arlington, probably once a year, but we do that with her children and their father, who we have a very good relationship with, so it's more than just visiting a stone monument.

    I have never been to my parents' graves since the burial ceremonies, and the one time I tried to find my mom's grave, I couldn't find it, and it's not that big of a cemetery. I suppose I could ask my brother though, since he's the caretaker. I don't often mention that I haven't visited their graves because people take that to mean that I haven't thought of them, and that's just not true. I think of them often. I just don't know that I need a stone in order to do that.
     
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