Pulse Rate / Blood Pressure

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  1. Martin Alonzo

    Martin Alonzo Supreme Member
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    Blood pressure has always been an arbitrational number they just decided one day it should be 120/80 the old number was 100 plus your age and the other was less. Some doctors depending on age of the person will say 140/90. This is after 10 -20 minute rest how often does that happen in a doctors waiting room as you listen to everyone’s complaints. Also if this was so important you should never exercise because your blood pressure could go to 400.

    How do they measure blood pressure well they put a band around your arm and compress it until they no longer hear your heart beat and then let it off when they hear your heart again that is your high pressure and when they no longer hear it than that is your low pressure. The fact it you are muscular or fat or your body is denser is not taken into account.

    I have a different blood pressure in my right arm as I have in my left interesting.
     
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    One of the worst conditions of "high blood pressure" is Pulmonary Hypertension, higher than normal blood pressure within the lungs. There are symptoms, but those are also found in a great variety of much commoner conditions, including COPD and emphysema, so P-H is often undiagnosed. Allowed to exist a long time, it taxes the heart, causing problems with that organ also.

    But, whereas checking general system B.P. is no harder than measuring it on an arm or leg, how can you measure it in the lungs? Not easy at all.

    "Right heart catheterization. After you've had an echocardiogram, if your doctor thinks you have pulmonary hypertension, you'll likely have a right heart catheterization. This test can often help confirm that you have pulmonary hypertension and determine the severity of your condition.

    During the procedure, a cardiologist places a thin, flexible tube (catheter) into a vein in your neck or groin. The catheter is then threaded into your right ventricle and pulmonary artery.

    Right heart catheterization allows your doctor to directly measure the pressure in the main pulmonary arteries and right ventricle. It's also used to see what effect different medications may have on your pulmonary hypertension."
    See: http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...on/diagnosis-treatment/diagnosis/dxc-20197484

    Folks, don't wish this malady on your worst enemy! Frank
     
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    I love the medical system they are really good at diagnosis or giving a name to a problem but not to good at finding a cure. I taught a woman who was diagnosis with high blood pressure how to meditate and she lower her blood pressure and got off the drugs. I guess hypertension probably means high tension and learning to relax might be an answer but for some people that is too difficult drugs are easier.
     
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    That's so much better and cuter than the Like button!

    My BP was typically 90/70 when I was younger. It has been somewhat higher on occasion, especially when I weighed more, but normalized a bit as I lost the excess weight. I still have a ways to go in that regard, but one of the reasons I finally went to the Emergency Room back in April was that besides feeling extremely sick, my blood pressure was very high. After I ended up getting the surgery, my blood pressure decreased to a normal range for me. 'Normal' ranges are really just general guidelines. Some people will find themselves outside of those ranges, but as Ken said, his levels have always been outside of the supposed normal range, without complications. My temperature has always been sub-normal, and I always have to explain to new doctors I see that 99 is actually a high temperature for me, since my typical temperature is around 97.
     
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    My temperature also runs low @Diane Lane . Around 96 to 97, so 99 is high for me as well. When I try to explain this to a doctor, I can always tell that they think I'm imagining it. Why are doctors always so sure that they can't be wrong? :eek:

    Most of the time, I feel that doctors just pigeon hole you into the category they think is right without taken the time to see that person fits the hole or not. :mad:
     
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    Mine runs low too. Always 96-97. Probably thyroid. My dr knows because they take it every time I'm there but
    They're not concerned. Maybe there's a range and 98.6 isn't set in stone.
     
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  7. Ken Anderson

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    Since I started this thread in 2016, my blood pressure and pulse rate have returned to something more like what they used to be. Although my blood pressure is not as low as it once was, it seldom gets high enough to be considered even close to high anymore, and my pulse rates are in the 50s usually. Doctors tend to think that your blood pressure is whatever reading they get when you see them once or twice a year, and this is generally inaccurate. That's not to say that their reading is inaccurate, but that it is not necessarily representative of what your normal rates might be. Usually, whether you're feeling stressed when you go to the doctor's office or not, you can expect your blood pressure and pulse rate to be higher than normal. Even at the doctor's office, if the first reading was high, I could have them retake it ten minutes later and it would be considerably lower. Plus, in most people, there is a wide fluctuation in blood pressures and a lesser fluctuation in pulse rates, but it's normal for them to change throughout the day.

    While teaching EMT students, my blood pressure would be taken often. Of course, I can take my own blood pressure, manually or with a machine, since I have both, and my blood pressure changes from time to time, even while I am sitting behind my desk. When I was getting some high readings at the doctor's office, I got her to shut up about my blood pressure when I recorded my readings throughout the day for a few days.

    As a paramedic, unless the readings we got were at one extreme or another, we weren't so much concerned with one reading of a patient's blood pressure or pulse rate as we were with using that as a baseline to measure any changes. Fluctuating readings were not much of a concern, while subsequent readings that showed a lowering blood pressure and a rising pulse rate, particularly in a trauma patient, was more concerning. Of course, rising blood pressure would also be a concern. Someone working in an urban area, with two-minute transport times might only get one or two readings but, for most of my career, I worked in a rural area with 30-45-minute transport times or longer.
     
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  8. Martin Alonzo

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    If your body requires you to have high blood pressure it is correct for you. There is a cause for the high pressure and it is not a lack of drugs. If your pressure is high because your kidneys are failing to move blood through them fast enough it will put out a hormone called rein which increases blood pressure. Lowering blood pressure without looking for the cause and correcting that is bad medical treatment.
     
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    My first heart doctor had me take my BP three times in a row. Then divide by three and that would be my average pressure.Now I will often take at least twice if first one is high. I have to take on right arm because of the blockage in artery in left side.
    The meds do help keep mine lower and more normal.
     
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    I agree. I have high blood pressure and would not consider going without the medication.
     
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    Over here all doctors agree that for people aged 60 and older a BP of 140/90 is OK. No doctor will rely on just one measurement during an appointment due to the common effect called "white coat hypertension". They would demand a BP record stretching over at least one week with 3-5 measurements per day or/ and a 24 hour record with measurements every 15 or 30 minutes.
    The point is not that your BP is rising when you exercise. It's about your BP going back to normal afterwards and not being high in the morning.
     
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    Well, it would hurt the drug makers income to tell people the truth. By devising various arbitrary measurements and tests (worse of all like the covid tests which are totally unreliable), they make billions a day. They protect that income too.
     
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