Agree Ken - its a sad situation when the problem affects me too and although its affecting them, moaning about it, is as far as they want to go. They are happy for me to take the reins and handle it, but back me up ? No way Pedro - that's when it gets to me. So I have turned my back on it - for now ................. What is laughable, is that they weren't happy on me taking a back seat ! People give me a dog any day