How To Accept Things A Person Refuses To Accept

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  1. Cody Fousnaugh

    Cody Fousnaugh Supreme Member
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    Is there any way to accept things we totally resist in accepting? There are things that go on in society that many of us just won't accept, but others, of course, will. There are things that Christians, and other Faiths, just won't accept and can that be changed.

    I'm not just talking about Trumps politics, I'm talking about anything that goes on in today's society that many folks, especially "Baby Boomers" and older just don't want to accept. Many of us would like to see life go back to the 50's and early 60's, when things were so complicated and we were told all the time "you have to accept this/that". Groups of people didn't push things on others, like what happens today.

    What do you think?
     
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    Its a case of 'having' to accept
    What we say will make no difference
    I'm stuck in the 60s and happy with that, the here and now is mainly depressing
     
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    Is there something playing on your mind Cody?...Can you give us an example of something that you would refuse to accept, that other folks you know would?
     
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    Now, Holly, we know what you think about tattoos, but many people don't think the same way. But, yes, that could be one thing, among many others.

    This could be another "very controversial topic/thread", but I was just thinking/wondering about it. We all know, in this forum, that some accept many things, while others don't. We all have the right to "accept" as well as "not accept". Unfortunately, many today get bashed for what they accept or don't accept. And, changing our minds at this age, well, darn near if not totally impossible I guess.
     
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  5. I think this might be a good topic for my blog :)

    However, this is my approach:
    On a personal scale:
    1. Does the topic (any topic) affect me and/or my loved ones?
    2. Even if not, is someone being harmed?
    If the answer to either of those questions is 'yes,' then it is my business;
    If not, I generally do not express opinions unless asked- but if asked, I'm entitled to express it.

    On a wider scale:
    If 'You have to accept it- this cannot change, cannot be changed' were valid, nothing would ever have been accomplished or changed.
    Just within my lifetime, some examples:
    - While school desegregation started before I was born, in my childhood people could still be denied homes, jobs, and voting rights based on the color of their skin;
    - Women and children had virtually no rights, and neither did some minorities;
    - Interracial marriage was illegal in many states;
    - There were across-the-board pay discrepancies between men and women;
    and these are only the ones that come to mind at the moment.

    And while people's approaches to these issues varied, if everybody had taken the approach 'you have to accept this,' those issues would still stand today.

    A couple of examples on a personal note:
    - When I was a little kid, my favorite aunt (never married, no children) worked at a factory; occasionally I tagged along with her when she went to work. Among all the health & safety posters on the walls, I noticed one about wages- minimum wage for women was a bit lower than minimum wage for men. So I asked her about this- 'even if they do the same jobs?' and when she replied yes, I asked the reason. She said 'because men usually have families to support.' I said it still didn't seem right or fair, and she replied even if it wasn't right or fair that's the way it was.
    - When I was digging into family history, I was very surprised to learn my grandparents' marriage had not been legal/valid. In the state where they lived at the time, interracial marriage laws stated that a White person and a person with African ancestry could not legally marry. I am very proud of the fact that they went ahead and did it anyway. Even if their marriage was considered 'illegal' in their state, they were married 'til death did them part,' and they had and raised 5 children.

    So what it comes down to: 'you have to accept the way things are' is not valid. There's a huge difference between meddling in other people's business when it's nothing but meddling, and standing up for what one believes is right.
     
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    Certain things today get forced on us to accept and wife and I don't like that. Actors today are using getting an Award as a platform to push things on everyone on tv and we don't like that.
    IOW, there are those things that some folks, like us, simply won't accept and the more these things are pushed into our faces, the more we refuse to accept them.
     
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  7. As I don't pay much attention to celebrities, could you possibly list a few examples of the topics?

    Edited to add: I'm sure I'm not the only person who has no idea what you're talking about. If you expect replies to address your concerns, you could say what the issues are instead of taking that roundabout approach. What 'things'??
     
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  8. Hi @Holly Saunders - I don't know what you think about tattoos- want to clue me in? :)
     
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    Talking about political and religious statements expressing their beliefs.

    Dealing with the celebrity statements about religion and/or political beliefs that has nothing to do with receiving an award. It is suppose to be an award acceptance speech and the actors are going further that that.
     
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  10. Well sure that makes sense, and I agree- but I still don't see what that has to do with 'accepting' things or 'changing' things.
     
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    Ok, I'm (the OP) is going to stop this Thread here.
    Sorry for starting it in the first place.
     
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    @Cody Fousnaugh
    How many times I've wished the same thing, but too late!
     
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    I think each older generation ends up feeling that society comes up with new and unacceptable ideas and behaviors. Most of us grew up in a time that offered us so many new changes, that we sort of got use to accepting the many new ideas. When we were younger, we were excited about all the many new ideas that were there for us to accept. It all represented our futures. I remember that the two generations before us felt much as we do now.

    Now we are old, and the new ideas are for todays youth. It is their turn to accept or not.

    As far as Hollywood, actors, or today's celebrities, in our time they played to our needs. Today their target is much younger, and different ideas are used to attract them.

    I just change the channel.
     
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    Oh nothing very dramatic Janice, I'm just not keen on them, especially on women...
     
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    Killing people is not acceptable by 99% of the people. The army does it all the time and even to a point of a person in Vegas killing a person in Afghanistan. It is not hard to get people to do things that they say they will never do just change the circumstance and watch.
     
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