It was and is important because if the writer's intent is unclear, how can anyone properly respond? Is it incomprehensible speech or thought?
Could be Lulu or not. Martin already knows he has some problems with his writing skills and so does everyone else. We have all been able to figure out what he is trying to write most of the time, and when we don’t, we just let it fly by. Bottom line is that I do not believe that picking on someone’s writing or speaking skills is a part of any good debate unless of course one is debating the pronunciation of a tomato or potato.
@Bobby Cole Well stated. I only wish I had such skill as you speak of.........of course, what I DO have is skill at technical writing. But debate? Uh, uh, doesn't "fit" in the world of Skilled Trades direction. Frank
I couldn't begin to understand Martin's point. I had to guess at it. Think I made the right guess. I guess. There are many times when he is perfectly clear, not this time.
Yeah, that’s the point I was trying to make Lulu. When in doubt, we just nod and go about our way doing whatever we do, or at least, I do. On just about every forum, there are folks who should be writing for some news outlet or maybe writing a book but then there are those who belong to a different sort but no less intelligent. The thing is, there is absolutely nothing that goes on in this or any other forum that will change the world or even a small community. Nothing. So giving a “pass” on something you or I or anyone else cannot totally comprehend isn’t an earth shattering event and will not change history nor the future one iota. Germany’s history certainly will not change and whatever Germany does in the future isn’t really in our hands but just a matter of conversation and not really a debate nor a matter for argument. We can’t change anything. In my most humble book, some folks really like to stress out and like I wrote to Cody, will argue with a fence post but truthfully, relaxing and enjoying someone’s honest opinion (lest that opinion be venomous and obnoxious) should be a good part of the day and not one that raises our aging blood pressure beyond 100/90. Now, where’s that stein of beer and my lederhosen?
Wow! You people have got my head spinning! I never realized there were that many incidents involved in the Jewish situation! Hal
There is a LOT of German history that no one studies any longer, and most of it has nothing to do with Hitler per se.
Here is a short, but on-topic, book that I highly recommend: How Do You Kill 11 Million People: Why the Truth Matters More Than You Think -- Amazon.com It is also helpful to read some of the many books that have been written by German people, who lived through these days, as this offers a perspective on how a civilized people might be led to tolerate and even participate in horrific acts. Gaining a perspective does not excuse their actions, and the ones that I have read do not seek to excuse such things as the Holocaust but it is helpful to recognize that the German people did not wake up one morning and decide, en masse, to exterminate entire groups of people. It occurred in stages.
I kept my 6th grade history textbooks. Other nations, cultures, were studied but of course the bulk is in teaching children our own history, including that of the individual state we live in. What you are suggesting probably belongs in college as a major or minor.
I was generally referring to educational theory and economic theory as it pertains to western civilization. Most of it, as well as math and physics is based in Germany and German thought and philosophy. Progressivism, the Federal Reserve, and the educational theory taught in the public schools here are all based in Germany. It is only history generally, but it touches on economics, medicine and other topics.
@Hal Pollner Germany has been subjected twice to the German people's noses being "smeared in it", following WW-I, and WW-II as well. Germans are a proud and upstanding peoples. They have tolerated much, though less than the Russian People, who have been subjected to retribution far longer, and many times more. Small wonder that the average Russian citizen trusts no one. Frank