I'll add from time to time and maybe others will "get it". I've been taking Pycnogenol since 1995 when I found out about it at a health lecture. We were told MAY prevent cancers. I jumped on it, I was 57. Then along the way I found Grape Seed Extract and found it does about the same thing and half at least the price, so I'm on it about 24 yrs. I take a thyroid support and BP meds and otc pain relief and that's it. I'm 81 soon and stay out of doctors offices as best I can. I'll add later what is profoundly improved in my health.
@Joy Martin Based on your earlier comments about Pycnogenol and Grape Seed Extract, I ordered a supply of both; I received them yesterday. So far, so good. Frank
Joy, how do you handle a colon exam, as in a colonoscopy? How about a breast cancer screening aka a breast exam? Being that wife and I are both Diabetic II, we have to see a PCP at least twice a year for Diabetic II med and I take a couple of other prescription meds as well.
I've never had a colonoscopy and I believe the Grape Seed Ex is a huge influence in my colon health. GSE also addresses diabetes. Do a search there. I've had 2 mamms in my early 50's and didn't like what I went thru with fear due to calcifications and going back for re-do, so never did another one. Those iron machines are barberic, if one wants to do a thermogram, it's out of pocket and not invasive at all. Read up on the dangers of mamms. For my breast health I take 1 drop Iosol iodine daily in 1/4 glass no fluoride water and when I've missed my daily Iodine, I could get pain and tenderness in breasts. So I don't skip a day, cheap prevention. And all our body tissues NEED a little iodine. Look at the Japanese population. Do a search on fluoride and breast health too, it's a horrible poison in our waters that the EPA approves and does. Thyroid too and fluoride. I tell no one what to do, but this is how I handle my health. My mom never had a mam nor her sisters and all were in a good place with their breasts. I've arrived probably 20 yrs ago at the conclusion that our medical world does and can do so much harm. I've had some and live with a mess from a hip replacement. I'm 81 soon and still get told "you look 50=60's....GSE is an anti aging antioxidant.
On another post and I don't know which one right now, a member posted about Leukemia and what grape seed extract does is "clean" and "thin" the blood. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081231005257.htm Can anyone just imagine how much the cancer drug world would lose if everyone knew and took this precious antioxidant?
@Joy Martin Note the article is ten years old. Not a single mention was made of this study in the mainstream media, that I know of: it kinda lends credibility to the thought that media's presentation to America is very carefully controlled.....now I wonder who/what/where has such incredible "power"? Frank
Frank, don't wond Frank, don't wonder too far, one can get lost. Just think again, if everyone was in good health by a more natural nutritional supplement, one would not NEED the medical world of pharma. I have been OFF drugs and allergists for about 25 yrs, so they've lost my business on this part of my health. I don't buy their drugs anymore. So I buy a seed from the grape and proud to do that. And just go way out and think if this "seed" does prevent cancers, OMG
Frank, I posted my comments to your comment about this 10 yr old article and for some reason it did NOT show up. Wonder why that is.
Your message “got stuck” in Frank’s post, @Joy Martin . When you quote someone, it helps to make a space line before you start writing. Your post is still in there, but you have to click on the quote from Frank’s post to see yours. Okay, I got it “unstuck” for you. Your post was somehow inside of the quote symbols.
Frank, I'll make another post here about the 10 yr old comment. We don't see TV ads spewing ads for grape seed ex and Vit C and magnesium, no all the ads are for the pharma drugs. The nutritional industry doesn't spend billions on drug ads and one has to find ways and means to heal themselves and not with the drug after drug after drug. As I said on another post, I told 2 new people about Grape Seed Ex at my D.O.'s office yesterday, they had no clue. What other good review and testimony is there but from a person who uses and has good health. Just thinking what if everyone took Grape Seed Ex (powerful antioxidant) then the cancer drugs, allergy drugs, asthma drugs, diabetes drugs would not be necessary and what would pharma do then. As I said I have not taken an allergy drug in 25 yrs nor seen an allergist and I had a good run with drugs and allergist before Pycnogenol and then Grape Seed Ex. I had mentioned this somewhere else, that I lost 3 people in my life to cancers in the last few years and told them all about grape seed extract and my son in law knew I was taking it for years but he would not "hear" me, he knew more than me. But when his lung cancer reared it's ugly face he did all the chemo and radiation and so many were coming out of the woodwork telling him to do this, do that but it was too late. Had these 3 been on grape seed ex would they be alive today, don't know, but it sure enters my mind. I speak from my gut and trust in nutritional supplements.
Do not take grape seed without medical advice if you are using any of the following medications: riluzole, clopidogrel (Plavix), cyclobenzaprine, estradiol, flutamide, naproxen, ondansetron, ropinirole, tacrine, warfarin (Coumadin, Jantoven); certain antidepressants--amitriptyline, clomipramine, desipramine, fluvoxamine (Luvox), imipramine, nortriptyline; certain asthma medicines--theophylline zileuton; certain heart or blood pressure medicines--mexiletine, propafenone, propranolol, verapamil; or certain medicines to treat anxiety or mental illness--chlordiazepoxide, clozapine, diazepam (Valium), haloperidol, mirtazapine, olanzapine. This list is not complete. Other drugs may interact with grape seed, including prescription and over-the-counter medicines, vitamins, and herbal products. Not all possible interactions are listed in this product guide.
Thanks Holly, I don't take any of the drugs listed. But I sure know pharma drugs and all the drug interactions of them.
I have seen some of these warnings, and the thing that upsets me, is that often, the natural treatment can do the same thing as the expensive drug does, but the doctor will tell you to take the drug and stop eating the food that does the same thing. And diabetes is another example. Back before they had insulin shots, people who had type 2 diabetes, were usually put on a sugar-free and low carb diet, and most of them recovered, Now, they just let them eat whatever they want to, and give them more insulin. My friend was told that sugar is bad and will raise her blood sugar, and then she has to take insulin, but they didn’t tell her that bread, potatoes, and other starches do the same thing. She thinks she has had a healthy meal when she has baked beans and cornbread, never realizing that she might as well have dined on apple pie, as far as her blood sugar is concerned. At the same time, she tells me how they have to increase her dose of insulin because the diabetes is getting worse. When I mentioned trying a low-carb diet, she said she couldn’t stand not to eat her favorite foods, and she would rather just take more medicine. Sadly, I have watched her health continue to deteriorate. I do not think that natural treatment is the only justifiable treatment, but (for myself) I certainly think that it should be the first thing tried.
So many just go on eating terribly and their justification are their drugs they take for their problems that changes in what they put in their mouth could correct so much. I see that so much -- so many are brainless when it comes to good health. Doctors are so to blame as they are so brainwashed by the drug companies, and who knows what compensations they are paid for the more drugs they get patients on...This has been a topic on other health groups.