Climate Emergency In Our Oceans

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  1. Craig Wilson

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    https://www.dw.com/en/oceans-losing-oxygen-due-to-climate-emergency/a-51568151
    The "deoxygenation" of oceans is having disastrous consequences for sea life. It will "affect hundreds of millions of people," environmental experts warn.

    This is the "ultimate wake-up call" for humanity on ever-increasing carbon emissions, according to the report, published at the UN Climate Change Conference in Madrid.


    How are so many smart minds wrong. These climate change/planet warming sceptics need to wake up and smell the daisies ..fast.
     
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    Take a guess what this is. It will shock you too. I will reveal later.
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    mystery over. The Victoria Falls. Taken this year I believe. Below is how it is supposed to look to tourists.
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    I'm thinking that this thread might be a better fit in either the conspiracies section or the religious section of the forum, but I'll leave it here because I understand that you. believe it to be science.

    In 1989, thirty years ago, Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the UN Environment Program, said that by the year 2000, global warming would melt enough polar ice to put the Maldives and other flat islands underwater, that ecological refugees will be a major concern, and that governments had only a ten-year window to solve the greenhouse effect before the damage would be irreversible.

    In 2007, Professor Wieslaw Maslowski, of the US Navy's Department of Oceanography, predicted that by 2013, the Arctic Ocean would begin to experience ice-free summers.

    That same year, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change predicted that by 2020, global drought will reduce agricultural yields by 50 percent.

    In 2012, University of Cambridge physicist Peter Wadhams predicted that by 2016, the Arctic ice sheet would collapse entirely.

    Other scientists have predicted, among other things, that human activities would cause an ice age, an increase in snowfall, a decline in polar bear populations, more tropical storms, and global food shortages.

    If there is one thing we can depend on from scientists in the climate change industry is that they will always be wrong, and they have been way wrong.

    It has been common practice for reporters, politicians, and climate change experts to inflate their claims for maximum shock value.

    In 1960, Paul Ehrlich set the stage for climate flimflammery when he predicted that "everyone will disappear in a cloud of blue steam by 1989."

    Governments benefit from keeping the citizenry afraid because scared people will give anything, do anything, and believe anything they are told by anyone who they view as having an answer to their fears.

    Climate scientists generally work for government agencies, or in academia through government grants. They are incentivized to conclude that the situation is so bad that governments must do something, that the governments must direct that something, and that everyone must be forced to pay for whatever government says that it needs, whether the payment is in higher taxes, a lower standard of living, the sacrifice of individual rights, or all of these.

    Any climate scientist who does not pledge allegiance to the climate change cult will soon be discredited and will find that he or she is no longer cited, will not be published, cannot obtain grants and, finally, be without a career.

    These people have knowingly, and deceptively, put the fear of doom into our last couple of generations, and many of those who should be old enough to know better have fallen for it, as well. After all, the government tells them this. They read it in newspapers, magazines, and online. They hear it on television, and the schools teach them that it's true.

    Climate change has become a doomsday cult, and its believers are every bit as fervent in their belief as are believers in any other cult.

    Those who are in the upper levels know better. If they really believed what they would have us believe, they would live like it. Instead, they are likely to own several mansions, using more electricity than is used by small cities. If they believed their own nonsense, they wouldn't be buying beachfront property, flying all over the world in private jets, and so on. No, they know better, and they are playing everyone else for suckers.

    According to the climate cult leaders, we must give bureaucrats the authority to strictly regulate the types and amount of energy we can use, while exempting themselves, of course. The climate cult leaders insist that bureaucrats be empowered to delete property rights, beginning with those who create the fuels that power the world.

    Given the authority to do so, the average person's standard of living would be slashed to levels that we can't even begin to appreciate, even while the politicians, their families, and the elite will enjoy even greater standards of living. While the rest of us will no longer be able to travel, they will have the roads and the air to themselves. Because we will no longer have the opportunity to see things for ourselves, we will be even more dependent on their experts for information.

    When its people are scared, governments are powerful. That's what it's all about.
     
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    Until there is a solution, I'm not sure going into a panic would change anything. The planet is full of potential disasters which can happen at any time, most of which would affect millions of people. If we live focused on those things, then how would we enjoy the days we DO have?
     
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    I have heard all this. My son prefers this theory.
    Major glacial (cold) and interglacial (warm) periods are initiated by changes in the Earth’s orbit around the Sun, called Milankovitch cycles. These cycles have occurred at different intensities on multi-millennial time scales (10,000 – 100,000 year periods). The orbital changes occur slowly over time, influencing where solar radiation is received on the Earth’s surface during different seasons (NASA 2000).

    There is indisputed proof that the earth is experiencing more extreme temperatures and weather patterns year after year. Whether it is due to this Milankovitch cycle or otherwise it is not good for our planet. Just for a second think what wud we do if America ran out of water.. or Europe or Australia or India. Complete devastation. Millions will die. We need to harvest all available groundwater now! For instance in Australia, millions of litres of stormwater flows into the oceans every year.
     
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    The fact that it is disputed denies that.
     
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    undisputed.. undeniable.. whatever.. it is reality Ken.
     
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    Venice is built on water. Naturally flooding may occur from time to time.
     
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    There was a time when temperatures were not recorded, so we cannot actually say for certain whether this is cyclic or not. But if one looks back over the centuries of recorded weather patterns and earth changes, it would appear there is an ebb and flow that balances this all out. You are sounding a clarion call of panic, Craig with the need to harvest groundwater now! Population growth and the continual building of cookie cutter housing, etc. are a huge factor in this conversation.
     
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    Surely it cannot be denied that prevention is better than cure, to turn your back on the 'possibilities' is crazy
    We may have had weird weather patterns before but why be complacent about the future, if improvements can be
    made, why not do them. There has definitely been a change here in England, never seen before and that's humidity.
    We 'see' the damage plastic has done to the environment and yet people still complain they want to continue with
    plastic use ! Its toxic, no doubt about that and its good to see manufacturers at last taking note and giving us
    alternatives - way too late though but it can't continue either
     
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    A further update. It has now been revealed that we are experiencing the most rapid drop in sea temperatures (ocean temperatures actually) ever recorded. Of course the records only go back to 1982 when accurate satellite temperatures became available. Cooler temperatures mean more oxygen in the oceans (and other gases as well), and the last time the ocean temperatures dropped rapidly it lead to a very snowy winter in the northern hemisphere. The Sierras in California received snow last night and it was reported that Yosemite received measurable amounts of snow. The GFS model shows possible frost in the higher elevations of Nevada as well in the next week.
     
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    Meat for giving 3 billion beans to the Paris Accord deal so the big wigs can fly their personal jets to a 2-3 day gala under the guise of having a climate conference.

    When no climate based catastrophic event has taken place, they can say “see, the billions you are giving us works” and then they get even richer.
     
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    Climate change is the perfect scam. Whatever happens or doesn't happen is represented as proof of the climate change problem and the need for more government control over the lives of people.

    It has been far more successful than other doomsday religions, many of which have had to fold up shop after a couple of dates came and went without the predicted end of the world occurring. After a couple of dates went by, even the Jehovah's Witnesses had to quit setting dates. However, because they are speaking to people who have agreed to surrender their brains to the climate change experts, the climate change prophets just keep setting new dates, and the believers seem not to notice when they go by. The larger percentage of their brains they give up, the smarter the climate change believers think they are.
     
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