Beating The Coronavirus

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  1. Trevalius Guyus

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    This time in our history will go down as one of our worst, most pathetic examples of massive failures in leadership and medical treatment. We had no leadership to help us avoid the ravages of a fairly wimpy virus, death rate wise, and the medical field failed to share information between attending physicians when it came to successfully treating those with the virus, resulting in people dying from it, when they should have easily all survived. Disgusting and sad. Yeah, we've come a long way, right? WRONG!
     
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    There have been relatively little "ravages" of any virus. See the microscopic photographs in a page titled something like "dismantling the virus theory" for 'proof', besides the last century showing it was not and is not a virus causing problems -=- (this is not new info) ... it is the fake medical studies and theories and protocols.

    Success? Look a little bit to see who was best. duck duck go search is better than go go oogle. (censored)

    see the silver edge dot com articles , for many examples (do not get their products, just the info from the last 1500 years and more recent - why what helps was ... censored and what hurts and causes harm is promoted)

    Nutritino the cncr answer by maur salamani (haha, misspelling sort of on purpose because of the search bots crawling the web ) ..... was published decades ago, about how to do things not legal to do today, and resulting in health.
     
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    Hebephrenia?
     
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    I don't believe leadership would have made one iota of difference, especially in the USA. We all believe in our personal rights and freedoms, so many take the "no one will make me wear a mask" stance because... 'Murica! Even the elected morons can't follow their own directives.

    I don't know how the medical community could have done any better; I believe they've done their best with the tools available to them.
     
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    hee bee gee bees ?

    :)
     
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    To start with,

    turning to the truth would (and does or can potentially) help anyone. This is not possible for the system (potluck(political) or medical or religious or social) the way the system as it is works.

    The honest doctors have for a century shown that the virus and germs are not to be awarded such honors as they are given - the terrain (the body/ health of the cells) is what is important -
    even with so-called covid, whatever is (if anything) causing any disease, most people (over 90%) are NOT AFFECTED in any harmful way (they admitted all year) ..... people with weak terrain (weak body/ mind/ blood/ immune system - i.e. compromised) are the ones that may be harmed by whatever it is, or by almost anything for that matter....
     
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    I would respond to your points if I was able to decipher your post.
     
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    For instance (one example of way to many even to try to count) ,

    did you (or anyone watching) see when Dr. House (on the television series)
    showed how to cure cancer ? (a method used for over a century, and sometimes used in the cancer centers (at least one) at a cost of $30,000.00 or more per half hour --- in Europe, it costs about $3.00 to $300.00 per 2 hours, at least some decades ago, and has been successfully used to varying degrees , sometimes along with other methods both allopathic (toxic standard drugs and methods) and naturopathic (non-toxic, natural).

    Perhaps it is used more often in the usa than I am aware of....

    it is called high temperature baths. (cancer cells die at a temperature slightly above body temperature, like when someone runs a fever of 101 F to 103 F )....

    usually , that is "officially" always with the standard : ONLY DO with MEDICAL(LICNENSED) Professional supervision. (that's where the high costs comes in) ....
     
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    We had no leadership, none! We had a person in DC who derided those who warned of the virus. Had the nursing home in Washington State been immediately cordoned off, had NYC been set up to quickly isolate those with symptoms, the outcome might have been different. Also, when the medical establishment told us that we didn't need masks, folks like me yelled, "BS!," and we should have been listened to, right off the bat.

    Go ahead and search for a uniform protocol that's currently in place to treat CV19, in this country. Guess what? There isn't one that's "universally" followed. Outrageous!

    Do you think Trump shrugged off CV19 because he's a superman? Is his SIL? Is Giuliani or Melania? No. They survived, and remained mostly unscathed, because they got top notch treatments. Do you think those treatments are freely available to all CV19 sufferers, as they should be? Do you think most MD's even know exactly how the above were treated? Hell no!

    Yeah, this time in our history will go down in shame, and as an embarrassment, for eternity, or, at least, as long as our species survives.
     
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    Well, you see it that way because you hate Trump. I don't believe it would have made any difference no matter who was president. Americans aren't used to being forced into anything, including wearing masks, social distancing, etc.
     
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    Remember the ..... national leader ...... long ago, in a wheelchair? If he had been tested, and given the right nutrition early enough, no parlysis would have occurred. (assuming of course the diagnosis publicized was correct, even though his treatment he received was terrible and not at all what was needed nor what could help. )

    Some poor people are geeting bettetr treatment than the rich .... and will suffer less if at all. They just have to know what to do, and the system is not telling the rich or the poor basically, if at all.

    I suspect Trump may be an exception, and was told the truth, and knew it, even though he hasn't publicly made it all known (he might not dare). But he started to tell the truth, when he declared nationally on televised live broadcasts (and recorded ones?) , that the doctors are lying for the hospitals (etc), concerning covid and deaths, because they get more money. The congressman who is a licensed doctor separately publicized this also - he stated openly? (or in secret but got printed anyway?) that the doctors in the hospitals he worked at were told to say it was a covd death, even if it wasn't, for the extra money given for covd deaths. ....

    Oh, to be sure, in a few places, masks might be appropriate, but worldwide and in many places, it was long ago proven that they don't help most people , and that they do cause harm .... (do a duck search for "effects of masks") ....
     
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    Well, they got tricked into going to war several times in the last century. (more awols in the 1990's or thereabouts each year than all of previous wars (1910 thru 1960 ) combined. (subject to checking the numbers.) ... From privates to generals? (how high up?) , they quit when they found out what we were doing 'over there' (they were lied to to get them to join the war, and left when they found out they were actually harming many innocents) ....
    And Americans got tricked into turning over their children to the government/ education/ health/ etc ..... (although most seem to stay willing to suffer the consequences, and conveniently deny it somehow blaming something else ) ....
    And so on.... more than could be told in just ten forums and a hundred threads.....

    Now just like how socialism in italy took hold - the populace was tricked, and together they make a strong force for doing what was designed to be done....
     
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    https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/rudy-giuliani-leaves-hospital-coronavirus-000826413.html

    Once again, we have another very clear example of how those with power and/or connections can get the virus, check into the hospital, and be out in no time, feeling great. They are treated with a protocol NOT available to you or I or most people in this world.

    Go ahead and try to find EXACTLY how Trump or Giuliani were treated. Not happening!
     
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    They were given vitamin C, vitamin D, other supplements that help oxygen, and some like coconut oil and colloidal silver that wipes out every virus.
    Simple.
    That is what always worked for the Royal Family in England, and for the rich and powerful elite in the usa.
    And anyone else who just 'happened' to find out.....
     
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    You are wrong, but your posts are amusing.

    THIS is what they actually got, and it's total BS that the rich and powerful get this treatment while the common folk die.

    https://news.yahoo.com/trump-friends-got-coronavirus-care-131020548.html
     
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