Youth Crime, Penalties

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  1. Yvonne Smith

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    Please just post the link for us, @Silvia Benoit . It is not showing up on any searches. News and political threads need verification links or videos so that people can read the whole thing. No one else has found a link for this either, or they would have posted it for you, just like I was trying to do.
     
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    And I am trying to wrap my head about your worries for the destiny of a youth who committed murder. Would you worry so much if the youth killed / raped one of your relatives?[/QUO-TE]
    And, where did I write “worried”?

    In answer to one of your questions:
    When I was growing up, there were bullies and I took care of business. It didn’t go to the principle, it didn’t go any further than the school yard.
    If someone attempts to harm my family, I am more than prepared to take care of business.
    Capital punishment is nothing more than killing someone without having to do it yourself. If the kid had committed that crime and I was in any way involved then that young man would not have gone to court but I dare say that I would have to face the judge.

    So far as the young adult you’re writing about, I can see no reason why he did what he did other than the kid is a full blown psychopath. Your assumption that if he were to be placed in an institution and then released is just what I wrote, it’s an assumption. Many, many people are locked away and will never see the outside world again.
    If the young man does hit the prison system, it’s the same as capital punishment whereby I do believe he will be killed but not before some serious torture.

    Now, in answer to the basic premise of young adults and punishment, our system has been and is broken but how to fix it is way beyond my pay grade. To me, if we start fixing things before they get out of hand, then there would be less teen crime to begin with.
    More and more single parent families are burgeoning forward with unsupervised kids. They learn nothing in school not necessarily because there aren’t good teachers but because the staff’s hands are tied. Social services in the U.S. is a mass joke to put it mildly and as I wrote before, our legal system especially as it pertains to our youth is totally broken.

    Time to reinstate the military draft.
     
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    Thank you, Silvia. This is not someone who beheaded a 6 year old child, as you first said, but a teenager who was probably not sober, who accidentally killed a 61 year old man, according to the article that you linked (which is the same one as I asked you about earlier, and you said that was not the right one).
    The teenager also attacked another teenager the same day, according to the article, and he didn’t intend to kill the older man, but he was definitely having anger issues.

    The article says that he can look at parole in around 11 years, but I think that sending him into a treatment program would be better than just sticking him in prison with criminals, where he would then probably come out afterwards , always being a criminal.
    I would hope that he was put into a juvenile facility, at least.
    He was from a good home, apparently; and until that day, he had not had any kind of arrests or problems with attacking people, so I think that the sentence was appropriate, and that he certainly should not have been put to death for an unintentional murder.
     
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    Bobby

    M y dear member you didn't have to write "worry"... this feeling was plastered allover your post.

    See, I believe if the criminal is sentenced for the crime committed not only he / she will be out of circulation for a long time but, also, "the possible imitators" will think twice before breaking the law.
    Yes, I know capital punishment has not stopped crime...but for sure stopped the executed from "performing" again.
     
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    Yvonne,

    I guess I omitted "" 1 "".

    BTW, check in the same google page all the murders committed by young people...SOBER or DRUNK
     
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    I wrote...concerned. Read well my dear before writing.

    Okay, so you like capitol punishment but still, if I get the roundhouse of many of your posts in different threads, you haven’t a clue as to how to stop the young from committing crimes. On one side of the coin, you claim that a hand on the butt of a kid is akin to a cardinal sin but yet you’re for hanging a kid when he commits murder.
    Chances are, if the kid, any kid has issues it stems from the fact that he or she wasn’t taught anything about accountability.
     
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    Bobby

    I said ""...the feeling of worry..." was plastered allover your post..." Read well my dear... :)

    Concerned / abashed / alarmed / bothered / anxious / preoccupated....and more can be used as synonyms of worried....

    See, I understand people are worried about a 16 y/o going to jail for 90 years........but it worries me a lot more that an assassin goes free after few years.

    I don't want to be his / her next victim.
     
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    Have to admit, I sure like Bobby's idea of............reinstate the Draft.

    As far as your post goes, Silvia, you don't want America to support, as in feed/house, a prisoner for years and years. Many that do get the Death Penalty, it is documented that they can stay on Death Row for years and years. In that, the public is paying for them to be there.
     
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    I'm just finding a therapist who was sentenced to 103 years for sexual abuse, but he was 53.
     
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    That's a different case. Did you find the Nathaniel Brazil's case? He was given life in prison and later his sentence was reduced to 28 years. At the time of sentencing he was 14 (murder).
     
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    Cody,

    While what you say is true, I rather support a criminal during his 10 or so years appealing his sentence than 50 or more in prison.
     
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    Bobby

    My job was to instruct the kids...education belong to the parents.
    No, I don't want a parent educating by slapping his / her kids.........but I do want a criminal to pay for his crime.
    Now, if you think physical / emotional abuse will prevent a person from becoming a criminal...well, then, I will stop here..Ciao.
     
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  15. Bobby Cole

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    Although worried and concerned are synonymous by definition the emotional contrast is quite different.

    Don’t worry about the kid traveling across the world to harm you, worry about the kid next door.
    How many kids have you actually raised from birth until......?
    You do not want to correct younger kids when they are way out of line but at the same time when they get older and get out of line you want to kill them.
     
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