Society, including official, known, and unknown, doctors and hospticals sunk even lower regarding everyone's health... every day since then... i.e. nothing new being discussed in forum the last few months... the troubles and lies and fraud the last year, 2020, was just what the country reaped from all the stuff before, and people were 'trained' to accept it.... for generations they were indoctrinated to 'believe' those who had them captive .... even though there was (and is or may still be) a way to escape that system of deception... See what it was doing decades ago .... anyone remember when young pretty women were giving packs of cigarettes free to get people hooked... ? And before that, when the military members were getting cigarette cartons free , each, at different times, and what? also in "care packages" ? ========================================== "When Doctors, and Even Santa, Endorsed Tobacco - The New ... [Search domain www.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/business/media/07adco.html] https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/07/business/media/07adco.html Oct 7, 2008From the 1920s into the 1950s, cigarette ads featured endorsers as varied as babies, Mickey Mantle, doctors and even Santa Claus. An exhibit of these campaigns is on display at the Science,... ============================= The Promotion of Smoking in the 1950's | Workplace Blog [Search domain www.theworkplacedepot.co.uk/news/promotion-of-smoking-in-1950s/] https://www.theworkplacedepot.co.uk/news/promotion-of-smoking-in-1950s/ Back in the 1950's, smoking and cigarettes were actually promoted as being good for you and, to a certain extent, healthy - by doctors! Many posters back in this decade show advertisements for cigarette brands such as L & M, Pall Mall, Camel, Chesterfield, Viceroys and Lucky Strike with a positive message, with references to certain brands being 'just what the doctor ordered' and how ... ============================== Tobacco Company Marketing to Kids https://www.tobaccofreekids.org/assets/factsheets/0008.pdf 1998 and over 2.5 times the amount spent in 2005 ($250.8 million), the year before cigarette companies entered the smokeless tobacco market.2 These tobacco marketing expenditures don't even include spending to market and promote products like e-cigarette and cigars* because unlike cigarette and smokeless tobacco companies, other tobacco ======================================= Did people forget .... did people not see what was happening, and what was coming ?
"When Cigarette Companies Used Doctors to Push Smoking ... https://www.history.com/news/cigarette-ads-doctors-smoking-endorsement To the modern-day reader, the pitching of cigarettes as healthy (even to youth and pregnant moms) and the use of doctors' endorsements may appear horrifying. Yet before 1950,"... ... ... ...
The same doctors and hospticals that people 'trust' when they don't know the truth.... Here's a very short excerpt from 'Dismantling the Virus Theory' that shows where the mistakes were made by the "specialists - professionals - scientists" (so-called by society) .... and are still UNcorrected in the general and probably most of the medical and specialized populations >> "In 1949, Enders announced that he had managed to cultivate and grow the alleged polio virus in vitro on various tissues. The American expert opinion believed everything immediately. What Enders did was to add fluids from patients with poliomyelitis to tissue cultures which he claimed to have had sterilized, then he alleged that the cells were dying because of the virus, that the vi-rus was replicating in this way and that a vaccine could be harvested from the respective culture. At that time, summer polio epidemics (polio = flac-cid paralysis) were very frequent during summer and they were believed to be caused by polio vi-ruses. A vaccine was to help eradicate the alleged virus. After the polio vaccine was introduced, the symptoms were then re-diagnosed among other things as multiple sclerosis, flaccid acute paral-ysis, aseptic meningitis etc. and later polio was claimed to have been eradicated.During his experiments, Enders et al. sterilised the tissue cultures in order to exclude the possibility of bacteria killing the cells. What he didn’t take into consideration was that the sterilisation and the treatment of the cell culture when preparing it for the alleged infection was exactly what was killing the cells. Instead, he interpreted the cytopathic effects as the existence and the action of polio viruses, without ever having isolated a single vi-rus and described its biochemistry. The necessary negative control experiments, which would have shown that the sterilisation and the treatment of the cells prior to the “infection” in the test tube was killing the cells, have never been performed. However, for this “performance” Enders received the Nobel prize in 1954." Thus, medicine proceeded to get worse and worse as the professionals in great error continued the false path ... Since then they have done the same thing over and over again: 'claimed' something was gone, then made up new diagnosis when the same patients or other people were afflicted WITH THE SAME THING and the doctors refused to admit it. They covered it up, hid it, prevented most people (but not all) , from knowing the truth, from knowing they had the same thing as , for example, polio, and , later, other 'legal diseases' that they had treated with a vaccine, and fraudulently claimed it was cured. This was not isolated nor unique to just a few doctors - it was and is a world wide deception, apparently totally legal, and it is a continuing, on-going protocol, officially, and protected (at least in the usa) by federal and state laws ... all the evidence available to date agrees, but most people refuse to even search or research at all , preferring instead to just go along and trust the deceivers, not caring enough to question it even nor even having the ability to decide for themselves when something is so wrong and evil.
Examples: (YHVH Willing, more later) First, take someone young. Perhaps Three to Six Years Old. Second, tell them something.
Most well known example of brainwashing Christians: (wittingly or unwittingly) : When they are told , to start, " Millions of years ago...." ..... Without any support or knowledge or wisdom in Truth ... little children 'believe' what they are told when they are that young.... More recently, also, a very common mis-direction: (on purpose): "It's genetic" .... This even works on most adults, or so it seems....
Jeff, too often I don't agree with you to warrant a response since I try to avoid arguments where possible. In this case though, you've made a great point that's dead on right - specifically the "millions of years" brainwashng that's been imposed upon our educational system, museums, media, and public displays everywhere. I understand the desire and consistency for Atheists to push evolution and secular values upon the country (and world), and it's necessary for them to propose millions and billions of years for impossible processes to be seemingly possible. The leading Atheists even make the claim that given enough time anything can happen, despite mathematical improbabilities. Such is not the case, but the masses of ignorant people have bought into it. What's sad is that a majority of Christians have also bought into this lie of millions and billions of years. They've done so out of a perceived need to harmonize their faith with science. Thus, they've rejected the Bible's historical Genesis account, which happens to be consistent with science, in order to adopt unfounded evolutionary theories, which contradict several known laws of science as well as their faith's foundational scriptures. I discovered two video presentations lately that do a fine job of explaining how dinosaurs are being used, especially with children, to push the long ages, evolutionary agenda. Christian parents and grandparents should take note of this and do their best to counteract the unbiblical brainwashing being imposed upon their children.
So you point is what Jeff? All these things have gone on for centuries. Has never changed, doubt will ever change. Once you become old enough to make up your own mind- you accept it and go on- or waste time trying to change everyone around to change their mind.
I don't really argue, do I ? Once the evidence is sought after, searched for, found, realized, we agree. If no, where do you (and others) think the deception stops ? It is as you say imposed upon the educational system, museums, media, and public displays everywhere.... do you actually think it stops there ?
Brainwashing is easily done when you are dealing with people of the same group like religious or political.
Oh, now we are putting down religious people, huh? Political people, perhaps, but nice, descent, loving religious people?
Flesh is flesh. By birth it is flesh. Thus, no one has to do anything to be flesh. By the nature of flesh, deceived. Nothing needs to be accomplished to deceive any person - they are naturally deceived. Yes, even medical ones that might seem to have some ethics or might seem to be caring. (see bottom paragraph below) Just found this example, after decades (maybe centuries?) of previous examples. quote excerpt: "Wellness How Hospitals Kill Our Loved Ones And Conceal It And what you can do to protect your loved ones. By David L. Katz, M.D., M.P.H., Contributor "The title above is not quite complete. The full title for this piece is: How Hospitals Conspire to Kill Our Loved Ones and Conceal It Even From Themselves. It was a bit too long. "The distinction, though, is important. "This is not about a nefarious conspiracy of malevolence and willful deception. "Rather, it is about an insidious conspiracy of benevolence and unwitting delusion. "It is about a system populated mostly by genuinely(subjectively, not objectively) caring and often highly expert people, that nonetheless devolves into routine and dangerous dysfunction."
@Jeff Elohim Why do you keep pushing information about medical wrong doing ? You have yet to post anything that most of us dont already know about in regards to medical cover ups and our lying cheating government. Have you lost a loved one due neglegence ?
For decades it has been known that the fastest growing cause of death has been mediccine ... thus, if they would turn and start to do what is not harmful, not to cause death (i.e. as in any case - FIND THE CAUSE and do something about the CAUSE, instead of the symptoms) ... if they would turn and start to do what is not harmful, millions of deaths, maybe billions, in just a couple years, would be prevented and trillions of dollars would be not wasted on the harmful ways and harmful directions/protocols... people could be helped multiple times over beneficially instead of harming them. Even though things that are the leading cause of disease and death were published in or around 1948, and many other years also, those same things continue to be the leading cause(s) of disease and death instead of being stopped. Thus , every family almost without exception , every community, every city, has many examples every decade of harm done that did not have to be done, whether through ignorance just not knowing , or denial, or not caring... Those who care enough to find out, to watch what has been happening, are blacklisted , censored, banished, instead of simply listened to , even to avoid going into the river when the bridge is out -- people just deny deny deny, and go on when the bridge is out, and crash and drown, because it is "easier", "more popular", and "professionally promoted". (and spectacularly by trillions of dollars more profitable) (people are easy to brainwash, and to bribe - they even think a bribe is okay!?)
@Jeff Elohim Alrighty then. Thank you for an answer. I can not debate this issue much. I agree with you to an extint. There is good and bad...or side effects in Everything - literally. Even tho medicine - as an example- may have harmful side effects - medicine can help and some cases keep you alive..such as myself. You have to weigh the good and the bad for your own situation.