Questions On Covid Vaccines ( Not Politically Motivated )

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  1. Don Alaska

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    As you know, @Ken Anderson I am not anti-vaccine by any stretch of the imagination, but I do question giving unnecessary vaccinations, especially to children, the Covid vaccine in particular. I have done data gathering for the CDC Arctic Investigations Laboratory in Anchorage and worked in other areas besides vaccines, but the best childhood vaccine (in my opinion) is the Hib vaccine, at least in recent years. After years of watching young parents lose their young children to meningitis, that has nearly stopped because of this vaccine. We also did extensive work with pneumonia vaccines and hepatitis vaccines due to the prevalence of those diseases here. I believe the vaccine risks outweigh the virus risks for the Fauci virus, as you call it, and if you read Dr. Fauci's emails that were recently released, you know that he knew (or strongly suspected) that the virus was engineered and came from the Wuhan laboratory and that he was in large part responsible for its development. He also knew that masks were ineffective in preventing infection and that there was little or no transmission of the virus outside buildings. The latter is evidenced by the fact that the BLM and Antifa riots, and the Trump rallies resulted in no uptick in Covid cases.
     
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    I don't, for one moment, doubt that vaccines have been useful, but I am very concerned about the overuse of vaccines, as well as with the marginalization of the risks involved. The vaccines for the Dr. Fauci Virus, in particular, have been pushed so strongly, and on so little evidence that I am highly skeptical. Like everything else surrounding this virus, there are just too many things that don't add up to a feeling of trust, and I am concerned about an ulterior motive behind it all. Do I trust the scientists? Of course, I don't trust the scientists; they created it.
     
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    I am pissed ! To all those out there who still want to claim this virus is a hoax..go to H e double sticks!
    Just received a call from Marks brother. Their first cousin and his wife who live in the Galveston area. both have the virus, She is finally home, but he is now on ventilator . They to thought it was a hoax, so no vaccine. Take the freak'en vaccine! Your chances of dying are far less by taking the vaccine. So now all family members are distraught but can not go and see them, will not be there to bury them. All of this and more because they were to influenced by others who appeared to know more than they did.
    P S, I do not believe this virus was accidental, and never have. The worst be yet to come.
     
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    What about people like the healthy 13 year old boy that recently took the vaccine, and then died of the side effects? This has happened far more often than the mainstream media is showing.
     
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    I am seeing hints that the vaccine is not effective against recent variants. It hasn't been covered in the mainstream media yet as they are still screaming "Get the vaccine" although i think there was a statement on the BBC that hinted at the idea.. I never thought of it as a hoax. I always thought from the beginning that it was a bioweapon developed in China. Its the method of its release from the lab is still in question, but China spreading it around the world after release is a known fact among those who follow the story. No question Covid can cause serious disease, and is quite contagious as all coronaviruses are. The method of prevention, hazards of the vaccine, and long-term effects of both the disease and the vaccine are still in question in my opinion. I have an acquaintance whose daughter developed a mild form of the disease and brought it home. Her mother developed symptoms but not severe. Mom was tested and was positive for Covid. Dad, who works from home, was also tested repeated and remained negative even though he lived almost continuously with two Covid-positive people. Males and oldsters are supposed to be most susceptible, but the oldest member of the household and (and male) remained negative and remains so months later. It has amazed me that so much reliance has been placed on masks. Some of the people I know who contracted the disease were the most adamant about wearing masks. My wife had a friend in renal failure who got he first vaccine and got so ill form the shot that she couldn't have dialysis and subsequently died of a combination of renal failure and vaccine reaction. No easy, convenient answers to any of this.
     
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    I’m not sure how it’s going to play out but Jen Psaki, the White House Press Secretary, announced yesterday that there’s a possibility someone may be knocking on doors to insist we take the vaccine.
    In a later speech, Joe Biden reinforced that announcement saying that they’d go neighborhood to neighborhood and door to door to deliver the vaccine.

    At the present time where we live, folks who want the vaccine can get it at numerous locations including the VA clinic for vets. Granted, Biden’s plan to have 70% of the population vaccinated by bla-bla date “seems” to be his motivation but he has to face the facts (or perhaps he has) that the folks who want it, already have it and most folks who have not been vaccinated do not want it.

    I am not in any way a gushy smiley person when a stranger knocks on my door already but someone wearing a mask and donning a white coat with needle in hand will definitely be met with a most defiant and belligerent person.
    The mantra, “my body, my choice” is not just for “birthing persons”.
     
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    No one's going to insist anything, Bobby. Could you please supply a reference with that quote?
     
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    You've got to be kidding....it's on the web every time abortiion is discussed.
     
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    What do you mean? Are you saying that the Covid vaccine and abortion are always discussed together? Now, I've asked for a reference; that's not anything strange. I can supply a reference where she said something else, but you can't prove a negative. I can't prove she didn't say what we're being told she said; I can only prove that she said something different -- which I'm willing to do. However, I've asked for a reference; please supply one.
     
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    My goodness, if you cannot listen to the news then google Biden’s speech or Jen Psaki’s statements yesterday pertaining to the Covid-19 vaccinations.
    One thing everyone knows here is that I’m NOT a conspiracy theorist and I’m not in the habit of providing references on something everyone else has heard either yesterday or this morning even on CNN.

    Note: My comparative use of “my body, my choice” is simply that. A very good comparison.
    Note 2: If I had not perceived that the request for references was done in a somewhat demanding manner I might have provided them.
     
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    We will have a big sign on our door saying that Soliciters for the COVID vaccine are not welcome at any time.
     
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  13. Bobby Cole

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    If I come to your door selling widgets I’m not going to ask, “would you buy my widget?. I’m going to convince you and insist that you can’t live without it.
    Figure it out.
     
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    There are risks in everything - for everybody. Humans are exposed every single day to something, even if they never leave home. My point being, taking the vaccine may very well save your life, or at least make getting sick faster to get over, with less side effects...just like the flu shot, shingles, etc.
     
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    what I am saying is that every time abortion is discussed the refrain is "my body, my choice". Why is it so hard to accept the same whatever the subject is without giving you a URL? do your own research.
     
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