Don why not say why it is nonsense and debate the claim or refute it instead of just denying the facts ,I agree there could be an explanantion but if sso discuss it. I wasn't looking to disuss Islam or Cathotism when I came upon this while studying about 16 or 20 yerrs ago only ro atudy the Bible. I will say I too was surprised. I am not affilated with any church.
Why is it important to infiltrate Catholics into all nations for the Pope? It is like the NWO ro make all one relgion under the wworld rulership?This likw the Romans with a god for everyone?Doesn't this take away from our One True God the Father?
…7They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’ 8You have disregarded the commandment of God to keep the tradition of men.” 9He went on to say, “You neatly set aside the command of God to maintain your own tradition.… Berean Study Bible · Download Mark 7:3 Now in holding to the tradition of the elders, the Pharisees and all the Jews do not eat until they wash their hands ceremonially.Mark 7:4 And on returning from the market, they do not eat unless they wash. And there are many other traditions for them to observe, including the washing Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Matthew 7:15-20 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves… Mark 7:14-16 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand: …
I don't know why you are on your anti-Catholic tirade. The idea that "Catholics" started Islam is absurd on the face of it. The "Catholic" Church WAS the Christian Church at the time of the development of Islam. The Schism had not yet taken place, and no Protestant denominations had developed. By Saying that the Catholic Church (which didn't really exist in its current form) developed Islam, you are contending that ALL of Christianity developed Islam. Don't you find that contention a bit silly? No expert on Islam, but from what I know about it, Muhammed began Islam because he was angry with the Jewish wine merchants. He tried to develop the (in his eyes) perfect religion by combining what he saw as the best of Christianity and Islam. He expected everybody to flock to his new idea of the best of all worlds, but when they laughed at him instead of accepting his ideas, and the wine merchants kicked him out of town, he fled banning his followers from drinking wine and vowed to kill all "non-believers". That is why the contention that Islam is a religion of peace simply isn't true on the face of it--it was founded in violence.
Thanks for debate and infomation. I'm not'after' the Catholic church just don't appreciaate how they have infiltrated my nation with their thirsd world members who increase their power over us all with numbers who have turned America into a socialist hellhole for the benefit of their Roman religion and and its wishes of teh Pope in Rome beliefs of ruling over the world according to what he is doing. If it was so great why are majority of Catholic nations third world nations ? It is a done deal so I'm just discussing and venting .All empires fall sooner or later,right.
I’m not all in about Catholics starting Islam. Certainly, the Catholic church has stated that the God of Catholicism and the God of Islam are the same but the whole history and genealogy following the death of Mohammed do not line up with Catholicism starting Islam. Here’s a small study that I think might clear things up a little. https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10424a.htm
I think that even in the 6th or 7th century, the Catholic Church stated that Islam is a heretical faith.
Uh, I’m not even close to being Catholic but the truth of the matter is that the Catholics placed missionaries all over the world and yes, including what is now known as the U.S. No other faith has been quite as ambitious and that I believe includes the Muslims. It’s been my experience that the Catholics are somewhat looser in their daily lives as compared to many Protestant sects.
I guess I don't know what "looser" means. As to Muslims, how many hospitals or orphanages do you know that were operated by Muslims?
Thatsinteresing read, I knew alot of it based on some studies I did about Islam but yours is more detailed. A woman from Lebanon who family was hid in her home till the war was over aand she was freeed brought me to the sudy. I am still in question about all the symbols,ancient cave drawings and rumors of some connection of these two religions. Including no mention of who Mohammads first wife really was. But I'll leave my mind for now. Thanks for info.
Maybe so especcially if Mohammad left the church once he created his owwn religion. But we will probably never know for sure. I just t thought Veith had a good theory considering all the familiar things in common.,
I think Constantine was involved who changed the Christian Sabbath to Sunday [some say in honor of the Sun god] but forgot much of that so won't go there. I have forgotten so much I have to use references.
I don't think its the same thing but thats ok guess it makes about as much sense is us argueing over 6000 years of of history that has figured out yet and may never figure it all out .Seems I read where God said our minds can't handle the truth right noe in this body of flesh.