Sustainable Living In A Shtf Nation

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  1. Beth Gallagher

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    It depresses me to think of the future our grandchildren will inherit.
     
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    For those of you interested in this topic, here is something to think about:
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    I think they "expire the tanks that have the opds in them and the others probably have to be checked for rust, but the propane inside remains good for a long, long time.
     
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    That is what bothers me the most, @Beth Gallagher
     
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    I'll at times be sitting around feeling bad for myself then think of the young and what kind of future is in store for them and then be ashamed of myself.
     
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    We use propane but change supplier so not sure how old tanks are. Have to ask now that you mention it.
     
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    EXTREME ALZHEIMERS
    My hubby met me at the door after I got through staining the deck. He said Dick had stopped by and wanted me to help him dress a pig. (Dick and Sonia live in a well to do suburb.) Dress a pig???! My handiman's girlfriend always wants to put clothes on my chickens like on youtube. But what do I have to dress a pig with. I don't even really sew!
    Is hubby sure they said dress a pig? Maybe it is for a church festival? Hubby didn't know, only that he wanted me to come over and help.
    ??????
    Turns out Dick meant he wanted me to come over and help him DRESS a pig. He had won a drawing to hunt wild boars in Texas and he came home with a 40 pounder. He wanted to know where the bacon was etc.
    Funny stories about issues with TSA and ammo etc.
    I had no CLUE! My daughter and hubby never misunderstood.
    Is it time for the home?
     
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  7. John Brunner

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    When I was talking about having mine inspected I was referring to the small ones for the grill. I had a 75 gallon propane tank at my prior home for over 15 years before natural gas came to my neighborhood, and the tank was never inspected to my knowledge. I've had a 75 gallon propane tank here since the summer of 2010 and it, too, has yet to be inspected.
     
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    Forgot to add the link, buddy.
     
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  9. Marie Mallery

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    Plus ours sits outside in the elements.
     
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    Mine, too.

    They don't put propane tanks indoors unless they're listed as a beneficiary ;)
     
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    I knew that,;)
     
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    @John Brunner

    The delivery services which refill tanks on site likely disregard tank age and dating, as they want the sale, and recognize there is little chance of being accused of breaking the law. However, if one brings an empty tank to a supplier to be refilled, invariably the first thing the guy there does is carefully inspect the tank, noting date of manufacture. They will not refill a tank, regardless of it's contents type, if it is older than the federally-allowed limit. It happened to me.

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    The guys who fill my tank own it. I have been leasing since I moved in here in 2010. Every year when I get the lease payment I think "I should have purchased this," and then I go look (yet once again) at the purchase price, and remember that I clearly made the right decision. So if anything untoward happens, they are on the hook.

    Regarding your experience with the refill refusal...it happened to me, too. Just a few years ago, for the only time in my life. That's when I got mine inspected...I had no idea they expired. I have had those tanks for forever. And I still got 'em. Now I gotta look to see how long they are good for, and how the new expiry date is marked on them. I can't believe I'd have to get a fresh inspection every time I fill them once they hit a certain age. You don't happen to know, do you?
     
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    When I wrote this post I was referring to the small tanks we have for our garden grill which is why I said we’d run out of gas first. I didn’t know that you have large tanks in the USA which I assume you use on an everyday household basis for cooking as opposed to an electric hob and oven. Is this correct?
     
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    @Bibbi Wright they have quite large propane tanks that are usually placed outside although some, I believe, can be buried in areas where above-ground tanks are not allowed.
     
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