Daylight Slaving's Time

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  1. Faye Fox

    Faye Fox Veteran Member
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    OK, I searched but couldn't find an old thread on this topic.

    Before I get on one of my sarcastic tirads, does anyone know how I can move the shadow on my fixed sundial back an hour?

    Anyway, tonight is the big night we lose an hour unless like Frank you are basking in the Arizona sun where such mindless foolishness doesn't prevail.

    I still maintain that the hour change springing ahead an hour in the spring was created for the recreationist and not the farmer as the political propeganderist tell us. Think about it! What farmer wants an extra hour of daylight in the evening when he/she is dog tired? The recreationalost loves the extra hour so they can burn more fossil fuels having fun with their toys.

    I love getting back to standard time and wish it would stay that way year around.Tommorrow morning I will be awake when the clock says 0130 hours PST but will lay in bed till 0230 and over the next month make the adjustment to 0245 to 0300 before rising.
     
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    Ugh, I HATE the time change. I don't care if it's "savings" or "regular"... just PICK ONE and stick with it. It will take me a couple of months to get used to it, then it's time to do it again. :mad:
     
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    In Oregon we have voted twice and prevailed to keep it on the daylight time which is fine with me, but so far even though Wa. and Ca. also voted it in and joined the movement, nothing has happened and no more more talk of it. We weren't supposed to change this fall but it has been ordered we will. I found online the reason is that Congress has to approve it and it hasn't been on their agenda for over three years now. The original talk was Oregon would change if Ca and Wa went on the same time. That happened so now the excuse is Congress has dropped the ball when it is supposed to be up to the states.
     
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    Yeep utter waste of time :)
     
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    There are at least 18 states that have passed a state law that the time will not be changed spring and fall anymore. As you said , @Faye Fox , nothing can happen until (and if) Congress passes a law that the states can do this, even though the states want to stop the constant change. In 1966, congress passed the Uniform Time Law, which mandates the changes.

    However, both Arizona and Hawaii do not change back and forth. Apparently , they made the decision before Congress passed the law in 1966, and were grandfathered in, and not required to change. It seems reasonable to me that if some of the states can and have made the decision not to change, then all of the states should have that right, or none of them should .

    https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-passed-bill-permanently-adopt-001256258.html
     
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    I love having the extra hour of sunlight in the afternoon and the extra hour of sleep time in the morning during the summer. I don't care either way during the winter.
     
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    My understanding is that China has one time zone. I'd be in favor for that in the US. Even better would be no time zones world wide. If it's 18;34 in North Platt Nebraska, it would be 18:34 in Berlin and Tokyo. It would take some getting used to, but I think it would be better.
     
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    @Yvonne Smith

    WTH are "states' rights"?

    Frank
     
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    @James Hintze

    A tough thing to evaluate. Without time zones, many areas would be turned topsy turvy. For example, manufacturing operations needing daylight operations would be deprived of them.

    Frank
     
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    The opposite of "States wrongs." :)
     
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    Or State's Lefts. ;)
     
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    "I think I saw an app for that," he said in a timely manner.
     
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    This year I never changed the clocks and stayed on standard time. Previously, I obediently did but asked myself why. I’m retired, I can get up when I want and go to sleep when I want and don’t have to answer an alarm clock to go to work. Work? I’m retired. So no clock changes for me. If I have an appointment I’ll go an hour early on my time to make their time. Don't be a lemming.
     
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    I don't set my chronometers an hour back in the fall...I set them 23 hours ahead.

    Hal
     
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    Personally it doesn’t bother me too much. We went back to Standard Time on October 29/30 here in the European Union. The changes in spring and fall are standardised so every member country makes the change at the same time. Steps are in place to do away with Daylight Saving and each member country will then choose if they want to have Standard or Daylight Saving permanently. This could create problems travelling. Driving through Europe you can cross three or four countries in one day and in theory cross three or four time zones. I think you have the same in parts of the USA.

    @James Hintze
    One time zone worldwide or in a country the size of the USA would be totally impractical. Current time in New York is 3 am and in Hawaii 10 pm a time difference of 5 hours. If New York time was standard and sunrise was 7 am then sunrise in Hawaii wouldn’t occur until midday and sunset 7 pm and midnight. The ramifications of this are pretty obvious.
     
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