Info On Moderna Vaccines, Dead Set Against Mandates!

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  1. Denise Evans

    Denise Evans Supreme Member
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    I don't have an otherwise, very supportive family of origin, but neither my sister or nephew (now in his mid 50s) and very accomplished in his career, have taken the jabs. They loved your joke too Al ;) I am a 100% for people having the right to choose, because I want that right for myself too. I wonder how many "at the top" in this country have "not" taken the jabs, we will probably never know, but I don't feel, that many in leadership today truly give a damn about "we the people" and hold their own interests (money) even above God Himself.
     
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    Nurses are smarter than doctors because their egos don't get in the way...and I fervently believe that nurses care for the human being while doctors treat "patients."

    This discussion is a subset of the larger issue those of our generation have been smacked in the face with, and that is the complete loss of facts and truth. Everything is politicized. "Settled Science" is an oxymoron, but science has been hijacked by politicians, propagandists and those with evil intent. There is not a single subject these days where one can rely on any source to put forth facts and raw data (which is part of the plan to impose a completely different system.) It's one thing for this to be the case with social issues, but it's quite another for it to be done with science and with our very lives. Not only are we witnessing the overt destruction of nations and cultures, we are witnessing the demise of intellect and reason, knowing they shall never return in any sense except for appearances.

    The topic at hand tells us it's approaching the point of no return, because:
    1. Clear evidence that the shot is damaging immune systems and killing people is not only being repressed, there are government mandates for even more shots;
    2. Children are being injured and killed;
    3. The careers and lives of dissenting experts and being destroyed;
    4. Some significant portion of the population is fine with the above.
    These truly are dark times.
     
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    I am as unimpressed with Photo Ops of saline solution injections as they appear to be with their Maker.
     
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    One of the CEOs from Pfizer couldn't travel to Israel because he had not been vaccinated. It should make you wonder what he knows that they're not telling the rest of us.
     
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    I know this will be short, but I have to say, that is one of the best explanations I've read in a long time, of our world today @John Brunner

    for @Ken Anderson post above, yes, if people don't atleast question these things, what are we being but "sheep" not using the brains God gave us. No, I can't make a lot of sense of some studies or articles, but I believe God helps me with that when I get off my butt, and onto my knees and ask Him for help. And I am starting to listen to some of the News now, even though it's hard to listen to, but I can't call out a liar unless I pay attention. I can't catch a person contradicting themselves unless I listen.

    To heck with my "fragile" self, I'm putting on "my" big, girl pants!! I have a twitter account I haven't used basically, and when I got on there, I was bombarded with accounts they were suggesting I follow, every one of them was a liberal, leftist. Plain to see what twitter is pushing, but I think I knew that anyway. I'm especially there to be counted in the number for following the people I respect, and support them in our conservative beliefs.
     
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    An honest media would be beating that drum until mandates were halted, world leaders were investigated, and the vaccines pulled from the market.
     
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    Tell him you weren't pulling the "wool" over his eyes or busting his "chops," it was just something you "herd."

    ps: Baa
     
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    Fox reported it, and I have read it elsewhere, but then they shut up about it and it went into the black hole that is our media. Likely, since then, he has gotten a saline injection that was represented as a vaccine.
     
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    I think it was last Friday about 6 of us were all down around the lobby of our apt. building, and no one, include the maintenance guys (2 of them) or the administrative gals had their masks up. We all had them on, but it's sort of a thing if others aren't using theirs, we drop them. I think the numbers are rising of people not willing to comply and we are mostly considered "the elderly". So then, the "mostly unseen" assistant manager walks in and informs us all that if we don't put our masks on we will be written up. She did not like doing it as she is for no masks, but we have a 100% liberal board running our apartments.

    There's so much info the public does not get, and when we all do, what are we to believe it's so contradictory of what was said the last time we "heard" the news? I think when we stop being sheep, this whole covid thing would burn itself out. I feel it's being prolonged on purpose, doesn't anyone else think that "somebody or somebodies" want to control us ALL??
     
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    Wow, I never heard about the Saline injections until @John mentioned them. I think a lot of things get squelched, deleted, swept under the rug. That's why so many videos disappear, and other information. I mean it's just my common sense that tells me "their" scare-tactics are everywhere I look, but anything the disagrees with it "goes away". And I don't mean all of it thank God, the voice of truth is still being heard, but are we listening? I'm not saying believing "it" blindly is a good idea either, but at least I can have a choice to decide for myself by hearing both sides.
     
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    I was conjecturing on the content of those shots as being saline. They got a shot...that's all we really know.

    Regardless of 'beliefs," there is no evidence whatsoever that supports making these shots a mandate, much less actually incarcerating citizens (Concentration Camps of Australia, Canada, Austria, and maybe Washington state soon) who do not get them. For goodness' sake, when you look at the data from countries that gather at the detail-level, The Vaccinated are getting the viruses are a disproportionate rate!!! Degraded immunity (vax-caused diminished immune systems) is a documented statement of fact. America's CDC plays "statistics" games. Rather than gathering 100% details and then analyzing them, they do "samplings" of select regions and then run statistical "models." This is akin to surveying 600 "Likely Voters" and then making broad statements about all 170,000,000 of us, and is subject to corruption by selecting a data-set that will yield a desired conclusion.

    As an aside, there are some in the industry who claim that once you stop getting "boosted" and "take care of yourself" (eat right, exercise, drink plenty of water, get a good night's rest) your immune system restores itself. Any other potential vax-caused damage is still to be fully investigated.
     
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    See, just what this thread has turned into, and posts prove it...........hate of doctors, the medical system and pharmacies. But, if one of us gets semi-seriously or very seriously sick, where do we head.......to the ER to see a ER doctor and nurse. If an ambulance is needed, where do they take you? To the ER and ER doctor and nurse. And, if you need a medication to stay alive, will you get it or simply die?

    The U.S. is turned upside-down due to all of the "it don't work" and "it does work" society. Trump, in office and out now, is still a big debate. Crime in big cities is absolutely skyrocketing! The words, "jab" and "vax" have now become as popular as the "F" word. Many in society, and on this forum, are totally discussed with America right now, but can't do a thing about anything.........except complain and show anger.

    So, just how do we get back to being a happy (ok, "happier") Nation?
     
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    • Trump is only a topic because one side views him as the only president we've ever had who has tried to do the right thing, while the other side still believes that he actually lost the last election, so they see trashing him as a positive message, since they have no accomplishments of their own.
    • Move to a place where crime isn't skyrocketing. With few exceptions, crime is rising rapidly in large cities that have been controlled by Democrats for decades. Most places in the country aren't like that.
    • You are only helpless when you let someone else make your decisions for you, since it's in their best interests to keep you helpless.
     
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    Ok, Ken.......what is your solution to get back to a happier America? Unfortunately, not all Seniors can afford to have a house, so they have to live in an apartment. Most apartments are in big/bigger cities. We got lucky finding this city where, most of the time, a DUI is the biggest crime. Murder here is pretty much unheard of.

    Now, what "decisions" are you referring to that people don't make themselves and become "followers"?
     
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    Yes, I had that in the back of my mind, that it was a conjecture (had to look up that word ;) ) but I thought what @Ken meant was that he saw more information on being squelched. I understand it's never a wise decision to believe everything I hear, or even see. Photos/videos can be manipulated to suit the creator for sure. I just wouldn't doubt it at all. I so agree on boosting our immune systems!!
     
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