This Is What Is Wrong With Us - Informational Conformity

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  1. Marie Mallery

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    You will find this one every level of life but in today's world it is an epidemic.
    It is very unpopular to think for yourself or go outside the box.




    Also,

     
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    Above your heads ,huh? Ok then back to the gloom and doom.:D
     
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    We all are influenced by media, and many other outside sources. it an be hard to escape. I like to think that personally after some thought to many things, i can make up my own mind.
     
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    Me too. But it would help if the toons gave us some real info .We have to just form opinions on whatever the rumor at the time is.
    I'd like to call Putin and ask hi9m whats going on ,but they aren't taking calls now.:(
     
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    Just grow, even in a cup on the windowsill perhaps, an herb, and use it as directed. Then another, and another, as time goes by. The more you do this, the less opinion needed - you will experientially know the truth - "just the facts" ..
     
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    i don't listen to any news outlets or read anything about what's happening in the world....
    i feel much better to stay in my own haven...
    i am aware...but not saturated with it
     
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    Antoine Bechamp , published worldwide tests to do, before you were born, that were repeated by laboratories as needed or when needed or desired, over the last century plus some. They all showed simply, perfectly, directly , with microscopic photos and descriptions what was the cause of disease and what could be done to prevent it or to reverse it.

    Since it was very inexpensive to do, those druglords and bankers and politicians who wanted truckloads of more money turned it down and promoted lies since Pasteur with his false germ theory, which is more profitable than waltdisney stock.
     
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    A large part of the problem today is that people get violently enamored with positions, and are allergic to thought. Look at New Math...the way you think is more important than arriving at Truth. I have always been one of those who "questions everything" (or at least I try to), and it makes people angry...ignorance tends to be violently defended.

    Do schools even have Debate Teams anymore, and if they do, are there enforced rules?

    Perhaps being a conformist is highly correlated with a fear of being alone.
     
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    More attacking that debating in schools from what I see. People don't debate in a civil manner. they act like it is a personal attack now ,I think its society, don't know. We all seem to be uptight now a days.
     
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    I was thinking about this before I saw this thread. Was it Machiavelli who said one makes associations to have someone at their back?
    How does one even make true friends now. I am not talking about 400 'friends' one has never met? To whom you can anonymously say anything? But who don't really care about you? If they don't care maybe you must shock them more so they will at least remember you. Maybe it gets to be habit?
     
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    It's anger born of defensiveness born of ignorance.

    It frightens me...it's a mob in search of rule. It has always been common among the uneducated masses...and it still is. The difference is, today's uneducated masses are the middle and upper classes who have schooling.

    I don't think we are uptight...we are justifiably frightened. The ignorant masses have been told that the rest of us are killing them (no masks, no vax, no submissiveness, making the climate change), and the rest of us have had targets painted on our backs merely for forming our own opinions.
     
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    I have one friend I can talk with (and he with me), but I know he passes some stuff off to his wife, who I do not really trust. He does not do it to be pernicious...it just happens in the course of their relationship.

    Personally I'd rather be friendless than have affiliations of convenience. I've always been that way. It's funny, when I have people to do stuff with, I always enjoy the company, but that's not enough to make me go seek out relationships. It just might be a problem with me and not with everyone else..."they" seem to be happy.
     
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    I, and I am sure many others are of the same ilk. When young I may have done some dumb things trying to MAKE friends. I ended up with about a half dozen actual friends who have been leaving the physical realm lately. I am too crotchety to go out and get some more now. My husband and I actually talk a bit more now because if this.:)
    I do what I do. No one to impress.
     
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    If so, the rules probably are that whoever gets offended first wins, and the offender has to shut the hell up.
     
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    These things make me wonder what life was like when we were more primitive and communal...when we were tribal and had to hunt, gather, build, cook, etc as a group. I've said many times that this way we currently live--each family unit in our own separate structure--is not natural. I guess whether it is a Good Thing or it is a Bad Thing depends on your ability to be self-sufficient, and on where you might have fallen in the pecking order were you part of a tribe.
     
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