Life Then And Now

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  1. Jeff Elohim

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    "truly finding success" with profits/ money..... health also, sometimes.
    But the SAME SUCCESS was always availble very inexpensively in the past -and present- for 'normal' old fashioned ways - to avoid surgery is often simply not doing anything, and getting better as if by a miracle or what they might call "spontaneous recovery". Anyway, instead of a lot of money, finding the 'old' ways that worked all the time almost, is getting more difficult as more money takes control of all the groups that it can, including prolo-aspects.

    Well, no, it's not too late NOW .... You may already have posted that you started using or taking more mg, and/or other nutrients that prevent future spurs; this aspect of the metabolism as been known for at least a century, and maybe for centuries, even by native americans.
    "Regenerative" ways have been known , again, for at least a century, and maybe for centuries with different views/experiential knowledge what to do.
    "keep people from ANY surgeries, minor and major,
    is usually possible at least nine out of ten times, including the massive number of stints put in not needed, and gall bladders taken out, or thyroids, but those ARE needed and often need not be removed, except under the faulty protocols in or under the ama/fda/government.
     
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    Reputable hospitals did studies on the Stent and found out that they do not prolong life like a change in lifestyle would do, diet, exercise and aspirin but most won't change their diets or exercise. When they put mine in they said the were just going in to look around but I woke up with 2 stents costing $129,000 each from what I know. Plus they did test after test and xray every few hours for days. Good insurance is not always a good thing.
     
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    Not too late to warn others. They might not listen, but those that do will be extremely benefitted, live better, and not line the pockets , not as much anyway, of the rich wicked greedy surgeons..... only the occasional honest one, eh?
     
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    I questioned them directly - decades ago -
    asking them
    "Do you think it is right , to take a hundred thousand from a family who thus loses their house, car, job, credit, bank account, life's savings,
    instead of telling them there is a way under three thousand dollars total ?
    They ALL, EVERY ONE OF THEM, said yes, we want the money.
    The only one different I know or met personally was me, who rejected the money, to always tell the truth.
     
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    No one said anything about greedy surgeons, this is the specialty they went for
    in med school, it's a Tough Tough job and I'm sure surgeons get blamed very
    often when surgeries fail or are botched up.

    That's why Prolo or PRP work can save people from surgery. And it's not cheap and does not need an room full of operating equipment.
     
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    Did you meet anyone who healed people routinely ? Or even at all , ever ?
    Use No current names - doc tors who heal people are shunned by the ama, cdc, fda, phamakeia, and often are blacklisted and sometimes exterminated.

    None-the-less, there have been doc tors all along healing people, and other health givers also unlicensed.
    It was
    much better for everyone when this was legal, to heal people, and more people were more likely and did accommodate ,,,
    now though, since around '55, since it is illegal by fred law for incensed "professionals" to even talk about the ways to prevent and to heal ,
    not as many are "willing" , apparently, to pay the price...
     
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    I've known people who were given many years of mobility through knee replacements, hip replacements, and the like, which isn't to say that things don't go wrong. As for profits, it seems clear to me that the medical industry is all about profits. There have been huge advancements in some areas, but things have gotten worse in others.

    Prices are sky-high, in part because of the recognition that most people aren't paying it outright, and high prices can ensure that the elite enjoys far better healthcare than the rest of the population. In the end, however, they don't seem to live any longer than the rest of us.
     
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    That part frightens me a little bit. When I read the cause of death of those who could buy the best care possible, and they still succumbed to their disease (especially cancers), I am not comforted.
     
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    You're right. People who can afford the best healthcare in the world are nevertheless dying at young ages, or at about the same rate as the rest of us.

    Conversely, we can be sure that if medical science ever gets to the point where the major threats to life are curable, we can be sure that it won't be available to most of us.
     
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    I'm one so damaged from hip replacement going on 12 yrs ago. All mostly "elective"
    surgeries, the replacements, and keeps the Hospitals operating with their high profits....they count on the surgeries.

    I was in a lot of pain before the replacement, but now I'm in a lot of different pain and have
    given up driving, and so much due to the MESS from the surgery....The replacement surgeries
    are major and people don't realize how major.
     
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    Not many well-to-do mentioned by the messengers of the Creator are comforted. The poor, who look to Him, are comforted, and find very simply the healing they seek.
    Even the rich , sometimes, can find healing, but they look in the wrong place almost all the time - they look to the destroyers/ ama,cdc,fda,pharmacy
    instead look for the healers, while any might still be found.
     
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